A bid for Bentley as Barry heads off to Liverpool

Written by Damian

Thursday, 05 June 08, 01:37 PM

This is filed under speculation, so don't shoot the messenger, but as I was writing this we've had two people comment that Barry is in Liverpool for talks and one comment that we've bid for Bentley. Both of these are on top of the email I'm looking at right now.

The email is from the same person that said we're after that Swedish midfielder at Birmingham City that I posted about this morning, so I'm not entirely sure why we'd be going for two right sided midfielders. That's right - we need two!.

Anyway, I'd love Bentley and I'm sure he'll see us as a bigger team than Manchester City and we are certainly a bigger team than Blackburn. He'll also see what Martin O'Neill can do for careers, so it would be good news all round. But if this email is to be believed, it is just a bid and nothing more.

Barry on the other hand, if rumours are to be believed, is in Liverpool having talks about his future.

None of us really expect to see him in claret and blue next season, but wouldn't it be fun if Liverpool get knocked out of the Champions League early and that's his season over?

Barry is a good player, but he's not going to strengthen the Liverpool team and I wouldn't be surprised to see him sitting on the bench after ten or twelve games, mostly because he won't have Martin O'Neill to up his game.

Anyway, all speculation, let's wait and see if we're told anything by the club or if any of this turns out to be true.

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Comments (183)

PJ
PJ Wrote: | 18.51BST | Jun 5, 2008

I'd concentrate on your own prospects before writing off Liverpool's Champion's League campaign ;)

Matt H
Matt H Wrote: | 18.52BST | Jun 5, 2008

Hmmmmm speculation in deed.

Vikram Hans
Vikram Hans Wrote: | 18.54BST | Jun 5, 2008

Why woudl it be funny if he got knocked out of teh champions league? Loyalty means nothing in football.

And by the way, martin o neill is no where near as good as Benitez and when you gusy realise that you will see that its good for Barry to move. Villa will not be in the top 4 for a very long time and as soon as a really big club go in for him your beloved manager will jump ship too.

sorry but its true.

bedford
bedford Wrote: | 18.54BST | Jun 5, 2008

Bentley would be a very good buy, if it is true, as for Barry, its a shame he can't see what he's leaving behind just to go and warm the anfield bench

alexb
alexb Wrote: | 18.54BST | Jun 5, 2008

To be fair, IF this is true then Bentley coming would certainly sweeten Barrys departure. But we know that with Villa there's always a drawn out finger nail biting wait for any

Hope Crouch isnt part of any deal. Common sense says that we should be pushing hard to get people like Steve Finnan and Beyayoun in part exchange for Barry. Need a RB and a creative midlfielder, and those two could fit right in. If they want Barrys that badly, we are in a string negotiating position

magnum opus
magnum opus Wrote: | 18.55BST | Jun 5, 2008

Sour grapes about a lad that has served Villa well for 9 years. I think he deserves more from you than terse and cutting remarks. Shows you to be the poor lad and not Barry...

Rafa The Gaffer
Rafa The Gaffer Wrote: | 18.57BST | Jun 5, 2008

Of course Rafa is rubbish at upping peoples games, which is why just about everyone he has sold (bar Morientes) has been sold for more than he was bought for.

Michfi
Michfi Wrote: | 18.58BST | Jun 5, 2008

When was the last time Villa were in the champions league, ask your grandfather to answer that one!!!

sour grapes anyone

Gerry G
Gerry G Wrote: | 18.58BST | Jun 5, 2008

Barry is Villas best player and Captain.When he wants to leave he becomes a "good player". Listen here you Brum Scum, Liverpool are one of the most famous names in World Football, 5 times winner so the European Cup. Villa are mid table/top8 at best so what the hell shouldn't he leave to further his ambitions. Playing with Gerrard and Torres will raise his game and Villa will be forgotten overnight. Signed, The Belfast Ballbreaker.

smylhr
smylhr Wrote: | 18.59BST | Jun 5, 2008

i would love bentley a real quality player

utv

rowan
rowan Wrote: | 19.03BST | Jun 5, 2008

yeah because the thought of intertoto cup will clearly excite bentley!! ha ha thats why barry is leaving you moron!!!

Gerry G
Gerry G Wrote: | 19.03BST | Jun 5, 2008

Il faut toujours prendre la vie du bon cote!

rouman
rouman Wrote: | 19.04BST | Jun 5, 2008

at least were in the champions league pal. and we will finish higher than you, yet again. you focus on being above fulham stoke,and everton..

Durka Durka
Durka Durka Wrote: | 19.05BST | Jun 5, 2008

I'm afraid you're deluded if you think Bentley will want to move to Villa park. We all get blinded by loyalty but Bentley is a big-time-charlie who would not consider a non-Champions' League club - even with the Mark Hughes factor at Man City.
Maybe he will show up at Villa after a Pennant-like failure at a top 4 four club.

Gerry G
Gerry G Wrote: | 19.09BST | Jun 5, 2008

A wee boy did a wee poop on the lino :D

Paulio
Paulio Wrote: | 19.09BST | Jun 5, 2008

Can someone explain why villa fans are slagging off barry so much? He's been at the club 10 years and one of the top clubs in the country comes in for him and he decides he wants to move, play regular Champions League football and challenge for trophies on a regular basis. Can't they just thank him for his loyal service and wish him the best of luck?? Can so many people be deluded?? PLEASE EXPLAIN!

JoshT
JoshT Wrote: | 19.10BST | Jun 5, 2008

Barry won't be half the player without Martin O'Neill to up his game. I mean come on, look at Aston Villa, their players always look up for a game. Like against Wigan at home a few months ago, or at home to Sunderland. Maybe at home to Portsmouth? United?

Barry will probably sit on the bench for 10 - 15 games next season, but we will probably play around 20 more games than you anyway. This season you played around 40 and we played around 60. So even if he did sit on a bench for 10-15. He would be still playing more games than if he stayed with you, and against teams like Inter Milan, Ac Milan, Barcelona and the likes.

Playing next to Steven Gerrard for Liverpool as well as england will boost his chances of keeping the 4 shirt as well.

So the chance of playing more games, against better teams, finishing higher in the league on a regular basis, with players like Torres, Mascherano and Gerrard. Playing for a team that has had 2 CL finals in 4 years. Playing for a team that has won more trophies than most of you guys could count up to. Barry isn't stupid, he knows its his time to move on.

Martin O'neil isn't even on the same level as Benitez, so don't be giving it all that. See you next season, lets see where you finish. Lets see how you get on at Anfield.

CG8
CG8 Wrote: | 19.11BST | Jun 5, 2008

Barry is a good player,[b] but he's not going to strengthen the Liverpool team and I wouldn't be surprised to see him sitting on the bench after ten or twelve games, mostly because he won't have Martin O'Neill to up his game.[/b]

West Derby Red
West Derby Red Wrote: | 19.12BST | Jun 5, 2008

So, is Barry still the great player you Villains have been talking about, and O'Neil wants £18m for, or is he merely a 'good player' now that it looks like he is coming to Liverpool? I do agree though that he will play less games for Liverpool than he has for Villa. Oh, and by the way Damian old son, I will have a bet that our Champions Lge Campaign lasts longer than yours in the Intertoto.

cjamesk
cjamesk Wrote: | 19.14BST | Jun 5, 2008

Last time i looked i thought this was a Villa comment board?!?

Not sour grapes at all, we like you as fans have a connection with our club captain as you do Gerrard, and i don`t want to see him as a bench warmer wasted, he got into the England team playing for us.

I just don`t like the way your club (Liverpool) has conducted itself in this saga, and TBH never thought a well respected club like yours would be like that.

I`m sure Villa will have the last laugh ;)

ron
ron Wrote: | 19.15BST | Jun 5, 2008

Barry wants champions league football.

Bentley wants champions league football

geeavfc
geeavfc Wrote: | 19.15BST | Jun 5, 2008

Id rather have Arda Turan than Bentley ,the goerdies have bidded for him so the papers are saying. He would be a better player for around 8-9mil. As for Barry he has deffo gone, I would of preffered him to jus say he wants to go,instead of "theres not a decision to make" and "I just want to get my future sorted" MON has told us n more than likely Barry to his face he dont want to sell him.So his future is sorted according to MON and us fans.But not Barry!
Check out the youtube of Turan I love the little bit skill he does to about 3-4 liverpool players haha

Jimbo24
Jimbo24 Wrote: | 19.15BST | Jun 5, 2008

Bentley is destined for Anfield also.

Two quality english players to Liverpool whilst we get to palm Crouch off on Villa ;D

jone
jone Wrote: | 19.15BST | Jun 5, 2008

A bigger team than Rovers or City - on what basis??? Behave yourself young lad. You loose Barry and Young and you're back in the bottom half of the table... bentley wants a top four team, otherwise why would you leave Blackburn.

tom_Z
tom_Z Wrote: | 19.17BST | Jun 5, 2008

Bentley is our next target after Barry. Damn life's a B**** ain't it? lol

nelllly
nelllly Wrote: | 19.17BST | Jun 5, 2008

gerry g said:a pile of crap...how much have liverpool spent in the last 6,7 years???to keep on finishing 4th,pool will be lucky to finish 6th next year.
the team is built around two good player,gerard and torres after that theres not much...what about,young,gabby,laursen,davis and barry and what will MON get in the transfer,the guy has a brain unlike RAFATA....he just lie's about everything,i bet he's not even spainish..haha

brett
brett Wrote: | 19.27BST | Jun 5, 2008

Gerry G - playing with torres and gerrard every other week would raise barrys game (face it he looks better for england than he does for us) but he wont be loved by the liverpool fans mainly cos alonso is better, and his form will suffer with all those splinters
he's not what liverpool need, you can put all the shine on you want, players like barry wont take you forward

denismenace
denismenace Wrote: | 19.28BST | Jun 5, 2008

liverplop will and always will be the weakest of the top four, villa, spurs, everton etc will push for that 4th spot and one of them will get it. I also see an early exist from the CL for the scousers!!

pazzler
pazzler Wrote: | 19.30BST | Jun 5, 2008

bentley wud defintily make barry departure less painful! if barry does decide to go, best of luck to him, but i reckon we are headin onwards and upwards, an in time, it will prove to be a side step for him.

Me
Me Wrote: | 19.30BST | Jun 5, 2008

have to laugh at Gerry G
Tell me , do you do your ball breaking when they hit your chin ?

_aron_
_aron_ Wrote: | 19.31BST | Jun 5, 2008

aye gerry g harp on about the past, best thing scouse fans do. Torres Gerrard brilliant players the rest tho have no end product. Hardly profilic, voronin, kuyt, babel, pennant etc etc

O'neill ain't stupid if barry wants to go that doesn't mean he will. O'neill has a set price hopefully without crouch, and the only way liverpool will get him is by breaking the bank. Why the hell should we be selling our best players to liverpool on the cheap. If you get him then hopefully you won't be able to afford some wide players who you really need. Then villa will at last edge into the top 4

damo you dangerously close at becoming the next caughtoffside webiste with articles like this. If you got sources name them, otherwise the messenger gets grief

MOOCHER
MOOCHER Wrote: | 19.31BST | Jun 5, 2008

What i can not understand is when a team can be as good as Liverpool can be, then why are their fans so ignorant about football and the modern game. Without Benitez you could have won the league with the players you have got. How can Benitez be a better manager than MON?

meangene
meangene Wrote: | 19.31BST | Jun 5, 2008

Gerry G is gay. I know of him, "The Belfast Ballbreaker", he is a shirt lifter. He is also known as "The Belfasts Ballsonhischin", notorious pillow biter. Bewarey of him

Hamm
Hamm Wrote: | 19.35BST | Jun 5, 2008

QUOTE from Above "Sour grapes about a lad that has served Villa well for 9 years. I think he deserves more from you than terse and cutting remarks. Shows you to be the poor lad and not Barry... "


I'd like to see how you guys would react if/when gerrard was/is tapped up by madrid/barca/inter/chelski

olof the other reindeer
olof the other reindeer Wrote: | 19.35BST | Jun 5, 2008

at Gerry G -

Gareth Barry has been a great player for Villa and will no doubt have some influence at Anfield - maybe start by telling Gerard not to cheat everytime he plays Villa. By and large his departure will be welcomed by most Villa fans as our team will be able to re-structure as well as cash in.

ps. From my college days in Belfast I encountered a few Ballbreakers, all I'll say is I'm glad I had protection ;)

mossiewalsh
mossiewalsh Wrote: | 19.38BST | Jun 5, 2008

if barry goes then i hope liverpool gp out in the qualifiers it wud be great as for bentley-i would love it, him and ashley on the wings would be fantastic.

lucy
lucy Wrote: | 19.38BST | Jun 5, 2008

I would love the bentley rumour to be true but doubt it some how as he would probably favour a move to liverpool!wish the barry rumour wasnt though but i expect it is!

red blood
red blood Wrote: | 19.43BST | Jun 5, 2008

bigger then man city - can see you guys fighting for relegation – after Barry leaves the one man team is no more!

Vijayd
Vijayd Wrote: | 19.45BST | Jun 5, 2008

I hope Bentley comes to us, im a big fan of his and have been crying for us to sign him for the last year, so i would be delighted. Barry is a gonna no problems, but joining liverpool is the wrong decision, if it would have been arsenal, chelsea or manure then i would understand. We need to replace Barry, i dont know much about Sidwell to tell the truth, so im prepared to trust MON's judgement on this one but only if he signs Bentley!!

astokes
astokes Wrote: | 19.46BST | Jun 5, 2008

To be honest there's no truth in these rumours yet but I would like to be proven wrong about Bentley he would be a great signing for us.

Jobo
Jobo Wrote: | 19.48BST | Jun 5, 2008

That is a rash comment about Liverpool. You do realise they are the first seed in next seasons champs league.

Barry could offer Liverpool the perfect balance of left and right footers alongside Gerrard - With Agger back in central defence then Liverpool might just be the surprise pick for the title.

COOKIE MONSTER
COOKIE MONSTER Wrote: | 19.49BST | Jun 5, 2008

If it's to be believed our Gareth is off to the doleites to ply his trade.
You shouldn't underestimate what MON has done for his game - remember 3 yrs ago he was just an average prem plodder a mile way from the national team.
I hope it doesn't turn sour - but it easily could - Liverpool are a mile away from the top 2 and won't close the gap in the forseeable future.
Barry could have been a legend at VP - JUST HOPE HE DOESN'T BECOME A BIT PART PLAYER AT DOLEFIELD AS HE NNEDS TO PLAY 30 PLUS GAMES A YEAR TO GET THE BEST OUT OF HIM.

Rob Barron
Rob Barron Wrote: | 19.49BST | Jun 5, 2008

Do you know, I read this blog post and felt genuinely saddened. Although I am a Liverpool fan and as such delighted to be hopefully getting Gareth Barry, I have a lot of respect for Villa, easily Birmingham's number one club and one I believe is going to do really well in the next few seasons under MON.

From what I have seen and heard from Villans, Gareth barry has given Villa 10 good years and has been a model professional during that time. Now, as one who felt truly desperate a couple of seasons back when we nearly lost Stevie G to Chelski, I can entirely understand why you'd be sorry to lose Barry to us or anyone else. But to forget all about the good years so instantly and wish him a big come uppence seems incredibly harsh. The comment 'wouldn't it be fun if Liverpool get knocked out of the Champions League early and that's his season over? shows a complete loss of respect for a previous fan favourite.

Is that really a measure of your great club and the fans who I considered one of the fairest in the Premiership? If so, I feel very disillusioned indeed. Liverpool are not just buying, we are also selling other players, all of whom I will wish nothing but the best for in their future careers. Obviously I will always be rooting for my team if they should play against us but other than that I totally wish them well.

andyarkitekt
andyarkitekt Wrote: | 19.55BST | Jun 5, 2008

While I think the reds fans on here are wrong. Barry is not as good as the recent hype. Average, as I said before. However if Rafa and reds fans are that intent on getting him, stop trying to get him on the cheap...it makes Liverpool look cheap and they have no respect. It actually questions their respect for Barry if they don't want to pay the fee for him?

That said....Damian I think you are bang out of order in your with the comment 'but wouldn't it be fun if Liverpool get knocked out of the Champions League early and that's his season over?' You should hang your head in shame at such a statement. I know you are now going to come on here saying you just mean it would be good for Liverpool to get knocked out and you meant no malice to Barry. Assuming he does go, he's been a good servant to villa and I wish him happiness, except when he plays against the villa! UTV

northernvillan
northernvillan Wrote: | 20.03BST | Jun 5, 2008

Nice to see the Scousers taking interest in our current affairs anyway :)
Just abit perplexed as to why they are giving us stick when they sit at the feet of the three teams above them. They should be concentrating there efforts on getting themselves up past Arsenal let alone have a pop at the teams below...grow up guys!
If Barry goes its by far the end of the world. Making signings like Young for the money we paid was a huge buy for us (in relation to the "cash strapped" years of the past), but MON has taken his potential and made him in no time at all the highest assisting player last season. Dont forget we had no Gabby 2 years ago and now hes in the England team.

Have some faith guys, it could be alot worse...I live with a Geordie :)

Whoever we buy or sell, I have upmost faith in the backroom team and the quality academy squad available. Hopefully we can promote a few more stars of the future.

A quick mention for our previous transfer windows....have we been making a good profit or what?! Cahill for 5mill for one...is MON being given that money aswell to play with?!

After listening to a season review on the radio, Van Der Sar got the nod for keeper of the season mainly due to his distrabution ability. We urgently need a keep that is solid on the air and quick to feed the ball to our speedy lads up front. Couldn't think of anyone off the top of my head thats available, but any suggestions?

Up the Villa!

sassy87
sassy87 Wrote: | 20.12BST | Jun 5, 2008

you lot need to wind your necks in!!
Barry will be welcomed by our fans, there is genuine respect between us and Villa, however having read some of these comments, would you really prefer your skipper to go to another member of the top three who are complete arseholes, and would treat him as an actual bench warmer?!

realistically we're not gonna have Alonso at the start of next season, and Mr Barry would be a welcome replacement!!

plus we get to get rid of Petey at the same time!! ;)

AVMark
AVMark Wrote: | 20.18BST | Jun 5, 2008

What a load of bollocks. GB has been one of the best midfielders in the country left side or central in the past 6 years. I remember him being widely accepted as the best player on the pitch at Old Trafford under Graham Taylor so don't give me all that MON made him nonsense. Yes his form dipped for a season under DOL (remember Villa fans? That was the season we were booing him)but by and large he has been an outstanding performer scandalously ignored by Erickson. I'm Villa through and through but if he leaves best of luck to him and good luck to Liverpool - they are a truly great club that we should aspire to emulate.

B.Robinson
B.Robinson Wrote: | 20.19BST | Jun 5, 2008

Gotta love that completely baseless arrogance that typifies Liverpool fans. Just to clear this up:

Liverpool [b]Football Club[/b] is a club rich in history and achievements both domestically and in Europe. Liverpool [b]fans[/b] have only ever achieved in getting English clubs banned from all European competitions for five years. To hear terms like [b]we[/b] and [b]our[/b] being used by a bunch of bog-brained scousers, referring to onfield activities of a Spaniard and his squad of primarily international players amuses me...

UTV

Beastmix
Beastmix Wrote: | 20.21BST | Jun 5, 2008

I'd love to see Rafa pick a squad of 21 men and take them through an entire season. 9 of them would need to play in at least 32 games too.

Just like we did. Rafa ain't got the man management skills to pull it off.

grayowl
grayowl Wrote: | 20.24BST | Jun 5, 2008

if barry wants to go to liverpool let him,but liverpool are a team on the decline,with loads of problems on and off the pitch so make them pay top price if they can,not joke offers like so far,or any rejects like crouch then will see if they have big club money or just big club talk.no sour grapes i wish barry well,but i think the move will be a mistake

somersetvilla
somersetvilla Wrote: | 20.24BST | Jun 5, 2008

got to agree the liverpool lads here..as much as i love villa, were not on the same level as them and most likely never will be..breaking into the top four could happen if and when chelsea go back to being the mediocre little london club that they really are...but like us liverpool have the history of being a top club and are light years ahead of us now..god just mention the names of gerrard,,torres,,mascherano..babel..in the same sentence when we have joker,,routledge..petrov..and the legend that is salifou..and you will see why...i dont blame barry from wanting better class football,,good luck to him and thanks for the service hes given us..i just hope than MON doesnt get crouch,cause that tells me were gonna be one dimensional again with no plan B .good luck gareth go and show what you can do...and lets hope MON gets some quality in this summer,,not the unheard and unused rubbish that he seems to favour,,ash and carew apart,,the rest well what can you say....ps i wonder if mon knows weve only one keeper,,cause it took him 12 mths to find out we didnt have a right back...there you go thats why liverpool are where they are,,and we well were just in the chasing pack...best of luck to the pool this season,,knock those mancs and cockenys of the perches for us...

Xile
Xile Wrote: | 20.28BST | Jun 5, 2008

Liverpool are No.1 seeds in next season Champions league so they will not draw any other seeded team during qualification, so there little chance of them being knocked out by a side no one has ever heard of.

Norm in telford
Norm in telford Wrote: | 20.36BST | Jun 5, 2008

I think Barry has been a Liverpool player before the bid was put in. Barry will not come out and say I want to leave as it will cost him a number of millions of pounds - he and his advisors are not stupid. Rafa would not have put the bid in without sounding GB's advisors out first.
They obviously said he would be up for a move otherwise no bid would have been made.
I too feel it is not good to be talking about hoping Liverpool go out in the knock out stages - we need the PL to be doing well to help our league and more importantly AVFC to attract the best players in the world.
Bentley is a great young player and would improve his game playing in the AV team. Blackburn are too one dimensional and he would get a better run in our team than Shitty's or NUFC.
Just read that Spurs has signed Dos Santos - please let us sign someone good - its not too much to ask is it??

Silad
Silad Wrote: | 20.46BST | Jun 5, 2008

Barry would be a regular starter for Liverpool. He is being bought to replace Xabi Alonso although I would rather we kept Xabi. Your right that he won't improve Liverpool. Its a strange one and I suspect Rafa and Xabi have had a fall-out.
Liverpool need wingers because the one's we have got are basically average. I'd rather we got Ashley Young but hey, Rafa has won more trophies than most clubs have won in there history, so what do I know?

I HATE BLUES
I HATE BLUES Wrote: | 20.53BST | Jun 5, 2008

Is it a case of Liverpool buying Barry to strengthen their team or a case of buying him to weaken ours.If you look at it in a more positive manor it may be a case of the worst club in the top 4 (Liverpool) are scared of us catching them and see this as a step to them securing 4th next season.Its hard to say but we do want to be where Liverpool are,and we have more of a chance of getting where they are than they have at getting where Man,U are

I agree Bennayoun and finnan would also be good in a deal.

Just hope Barry has a house alarm when he moves up there because of all those theiving jobless scousers who always want somthing for nothing.

Villa_Rules
Villa_Rules Wrote: | 21.05BST | Jun 5, 2008

Well well well looks like martin is ready to make us all wait AGAIN

Just been reading on the site and in the mail telling us to be patient AGAIN

Same words as the pass two season we was patient and still nothing really happend

What's the betting we sign 3 players this summer and two of them will be at the end of the transfer window

Next week it will be yet again the same words as last season only not be patient but these words we will try to streghthen the sqaud

Martin forget going round and round like a clown repeating urself ACTION is the key NOT words

jobiemcd
jobiemcd Wrote: | 21.06BST | Jun 5, 2008

I dont know why the pool fans are coming on here giving abuse over a club that lets be honest they are afraid of cause we're coming for the 4th spot along with everton and spurs....our club is on the up and up an improvement of ten league places in two seasons is something I am very proud of and MON has done it.....Im not saying it'll be next season(anyone remember the 5 year plan that we're two years into)but it'll be very soon so beware......If Barry wants to go so what have him who cares thats football and it happens all the time we'll replace him and screw ye over for a fee ALSO why do you keep saying Bentley is next..... Potatoe Head didn't stick a 15million price tag on Stretch Crouch(only worth 7) for nothing its cause he has no money ye planks......why would two warring owners give money to a club there trying to sell its a business principal when selling investment is not needed and is just a waste of the current owner's money.......they just want there money back..... so get over yourselves and go back to the liverpool blog im sick of listening to ye lot s**te on about the red-side of liverpool and ye're great past on our blog ye its called AVFCBLOG I didn't see LFCBLOG at the top bugger off to your own one..... Damo if you dont stick up I understand its fairly long and im just venting

[b][/b]UTV

frank1
frank1 Wrote: | 21.13BST | Jun 5, 2008

Cjamesk, I have to disagree with the behaviour of the LFC. Though I don’t think either manager came out of this looking too good, I believe it was MONs’ constant running to the press (with anger) that was the reason for the media frenzy. I also believe that it was a deliberate policy, as I think he always knew that GB wanted to leave. He did a good job in raisin the fee, though he made himself and to an extent Rafa look far lower than the class I held him in.

Moocher, you make me laugh, if you understood anything about football, and a bit of arithmetic, you would be able to see that the Mancs and the Chavs have £20m defenders when we have one player costing that much. To accuse the KOP of not knowing football is a mark of your true knowledge.

Andyarkitekt, if GB is undervalued by LFC, then what is this £7m for Crouch all about? Kettle and black come to mind.

Simeon
Simeon Wrote: | 21.18BST | Jun 5, 2008

AVMark is absolutely right. Barry has always been a quality player. Were it not for the inept Ericsson, Barry would have the stature in the game that Gerrard has. Admittedly, he wouldn't be playing for Villa, as he'd have gone long ago. Still, from a Villa perspective, we can be happy that he's 50 England caps light, because he's our player, and there's every reason to believe that he will be come the start of the season, leading a much-strengthened Villa with every chance of breaking into the top 4. Of course, if there's insufficient investment, then Barry will leave, which will be a huge shame. But I still can't help but think that there would be better options than Liverpool. And as for those saying he's only being good enough for the LFC bench, you don't have a clue.

Robbie
Robbie Wrote: | 21.21BST | Jun 5, 2008

I HATE BLUES, that was harsh but hilarious...they can't exactly deny it when one of their players gets robbed every time they play Champions League...haha. And i agree that the Scouse missing out on Champs league thing was a bit harsh, but no more than the scouse deserve...their fans have been absolutely disgraceful and arrogant throughout this Barry saga, and the fact that Barry would sooner play for their sort instead of us reflects poorly on him to be honest...i know there's no class from a fan of the top 4 but I'm sure the scouse are the worst. Will we miss Barry that much? In terms of quality, he's replacable, but i do think the fact that he's our captain is pretty damaging for team morale...it's gonna require a good replacement. MON just seems like a dithering Mr McGoo when it comes to the transfer market...

ManCalledHorse
ManCalledHorse Wrote: | 21.22BST | Jun 5, 2008

I think it is a shame that there is so much bitching going on here. I can remember several good Liverpool players going on to play for Villa and wishing them well when they left. Now I appreciate that there would be uproar if Villa was coming in for our best player and captain but unforunatly at this moment in time Liverpool is the better team and it is a step up for Barry if he decides to join. But Barry has done really well for Villa and has been part of the club for a long time so it's a shame that he is not being given the respect I think he deserves.

I also don't understand what the problem is with Crouch. There are many fans on many Liverpool forums that think Crouch should have played in more games than he has this last season. He certainly got a lot of stick when he joined Liverpool (the main reason seemed to be connected to him being aesthetically challenged) but he is a really good forward. The only problem seems to be his heading ability (which for someone so tall is a little unexpected) but his footwork is first class.

If Crouch does join Villa I hope that he gets to play Champions league again the following year (when you finish second and we win the league) :)

Goldie 7
Goldie 7 Wrote: | 21.32BST | Jun 5, 2008

Come on u people think bentley (very overated in MY opinion) will come to villa park i'll believe it when he signs

As well put by somersetvilla if barry wants 2 go, let him NO PLAYER IS BIGGER THAN AVFC just make sure we get the best deal possible, and that doesnt include crouch, why resign u were shite b4

Liverpool Fans f'''k off, why have they been allowed to post on this blog its for ASTON VILLA FANS not fans of hearsay clubs in the country, ban these fools or post there com's to a different page, real fans couldnt care two hoots about where they are or where their going

Put urself in barry's shoes, your at a club for 8 years and won nothing (dam nearly 10 years) your current club is the smallest in the league and show no sign of buying big or goin places, i was watchin sky sports news the other day and it displayed which teams were in uefa next season, we no who they are but
1-porthmouth
2-everton
3-tottenham
4-man city

intertoto
1-aston villa

THaT SumS ViLLa Up like conceeding goals in the last ten mins of games?

All them clubs finished quite close to villa, are we really better than those 4 clubs???

IT KILLS ME TO SAY IT BUT WE ARE NOT
Silverware counts in my book

Spurs and pompey both won sumthing last season so they are bigger

so after the big 4, those 2 clubs........
villa really need to step their game up this T.M come on its a big world there are players out there that are unknown and brilliant we dont have to go for named players......just get some quality in and quick, stupid people run avfc do we employ any scouts and do they actually scout? joker, maloney, petrov, knight, carson fools fools fools

AN
AN Wrote: | 21.46BST | Jun 5, 2008

I do find it funny that you Villa fans are moaning at Barry moving onto a BIGGER club when you stole him off Brighton in the first place for next to no money at all. So shut your whinging, what goes around comes around in football.

EhehehCalmdownCalmdown
EhehehCalmdownCalmdown Wrote: | 21.55BST | Jun 5, 2008

Liverpool fans, you maybe a bigger club than us but you still have a load of overrated shite in your team and O'neill is a far better manager than Benitez, so jog on and stop trying to nick everything while you do.

Oscars Arse
Oscars Arse Wrote: | 22.06BST | Jun 5, 2008

I'll tell you why Liverpool want Barry and that is they see us as their biggest threat of being overtaken for the fourth place position so by reckoning Barry is our best player, buying him would weaken us. It's tactical, been done before with Dwight Yorke. I couldn't care less if he stays or goes nobody is bigger than the club let's move on.

Woodinho
Woodinho Wrote: | 22.07BST | Jun 5, 2008

Blah balh blah... Barry is a red scum bag wig-wearing tosh now - who wears a shell suit.

Forget him and move on!

Drop the posts about him too, your making us look like a one man bloody team! He's not the be all and end all, he's going to a better team, but wont play as much! Now forget it!

adelaidevillan
adelaidevillan Wrote: | 22.16BST | Jun 5, 2008

ahh liverpool supporters r all scum and leach of the system. they spend all their welfare money on games at that dump anfield then go home 2 there sheds and cardboard boxes they call houses. Liverpool supporters=smelly ferals

adelaidevillan
adelaidevillan Wrote: | 22.16BST | Jun 5, 2008

ahh liverpool supporters r all scum and leach of the system. they spend all their welfare money on games at that dump anfield then go home 2 there sheds and cardboard boxes they call houses. Liverpool supporters=smelly ferals

tinker
tinker Wrote: | 22.22BST | Jun 5, 2008

L pool are a big club in a little shity city with a European and FA cup history every L pool fan must be proud of...scum

AstroVilla
AstroVilla Wrote: | 22.25BST | Jun 5, 2008

hey, who stole my wallet?!

Paulo181
Paulo181 Wrote: | 22.42BST | Jun 5, 2008

Ok this is ridiculous. I'm a villa fan, which would appear to make me an ethnic minoirty on this topic. Nevertheless, how can so many "fans" say that Barry is our best player and we all love Barry, then when he decides to move he is treated like something you found on the bottom of your shoe? A little bit of respect for the man wouldn't go a miss. I'm really disappointed with the reaction and i just hope he doesn't get booed when he comes back to villa park. I for one will be giving him a good reception.

mark1968
mark1968 Wrote: | 22.43BST | Jun 5, 2008

I see theres quite a few nicked laptops doing the rounds in shell suit city ;D

mike s
mike s Wrote: | 22.47BST | Jun 5, 2008

In the metro this morning:
"...gareth barry could be set to join him(andrea dossena) at anfield with dirk kuyt being used as bait in any deal for the villa skipper."

ouch!!! :o

shadda2002
shadda2002 Wrote: | 22.49BST | Jun 5, 2008

GB will flourish under Rafa, he motivated an average team to win the european cup Igor Biscan Vladimir smicer et al. He has made Jamie Carragher the now great defender he is. Pepe Reina wins the golden gloves season on season. Macherano sat on west hams bench now look at him. It cant be a good sign for any club selling their captain, the 5th spot & europe was Villas for the taking but ONeil failed to deliver it. GB will get competition for his place which will be good for him.

GSM_81
GSM_81 Wrote: | 22.52BST | Jun 5, 2008

Just about says it all when you here the name Liverpool FC. Were any of you scouse muppets at villa park for the opening game of last season the only reson you beat us then was cause of that twat you call a captain Stevie Gerrard went down as if he'd just been ran over by an artic lorry CHEAT and stop borning the premier league with your pathetic song STE Gerrade, Gerrade. Wheres your throphys for last season how much did you spend on Torres 20 Million was it? Look what that won you. Fair enough youve won the champions league 5 times how many times have Real Madrid won it? Man Utd are cathing you up now 2 more thats all then lets see what you muppets will be saying then, and the team utd have at moment are only going to get stronger and win more trophys.As for Barry how would you like it if Real Madrid came in for Torres knowing that he still has 2 years left on his contract and that one of his Spanish team mates was urging him to go mmmmmm thought so you muppets. We aint got a problem with Barry its you scouse muppets we have it with

villian of chester
villian of chester Wrote: | 22.55BST | Jun 5, 2008

i will be sorry to see barry go : :'( i hope that liverpool do well for barrys sake ;)up the villa

EamsVilla
EamsVilla Wrote: | 23.01BST | Jun 5, 2008

If Barry leaves Villa ... good luck to him, he has been brilliant for Villa. I can understand at this time in his career why he would want to play in the Champ's League ... he deserves it. I think the real argument should be centred around the blatant tapping up of Barry, which if reversed on Liverpool would have you shouting too. Not only your Manager but your Captain have shown little respect for Villa ... which has obviously ragged us off. Good Luck to him whoever he plays for next season.

AzUK
AzUK Wrote: | 23.32BST | Jun 5, 2008

what are these liverpool fans talkin bout this for. he ISNT better than alonso, mascherano, gerrard and lucas. i have watched barry throughout his carrer, i woul take alonso over him in a heartbeat. as for the idiot who said he might play AC next year he needs to check what competitions there playin in next year, the same as us not you. i thank him for his service, but non too concerned about his departure

Az_
Az_ Wrote: | 23.38BST | Jun 5, 2008

Liverpool fans, YOU'RE NOT A BIG CLUB ANYMORE. ;)

TrueVillan
TrueVillan Wrote: | 23.39BST | Jun 5, 2008

barry will regret leaving if he does go, for all liverpools past, they are the weakest link in the top four and the one most likely to drop out of that top four.
at least on the bench he can keep an eye on his spare boots, which in liverpool he will need to!

Gareth W
Gareth W Wrote: | 23.55BST | Jun 5, 2008

Barry has given you ten years of great service, and you want him to not succedd at Liverpool and hope he doesnt get a good shot at the Champions League. Very Nice Gesture !

At the end of the day not even you can deny liverpool are a biggesr club than villa and that he will not get as good a chance at winning trophys at Villa as he will at Liverpool. Let the guy have his moment and shot at the the biggest club competition in europe, and remember him for the service he has given your club. Its not like he will be leaving on a free !

Damian
Damian Wrote: | 00.09BST | Jun 6, 2008

If Liverpool, Chelsea or even Arsenal came in for Barry (whihc would never happen and you Liverpool fans will find out why soon enough) then most Aston Villa fans wouldn't begrudge him the move because he'd have the opportunity of winning the league - but picking Liverpool can not be considered a step up, in the same sense it would be with those other clubs.

Sure, Liverpool have won the Champions League, in 2005, but it's 2008 now. You cant forever live on past glories - although we know you will.

Good luck to Barry - if you end up giving us Crouch plus £8mn. then it will be the scousers who get robbed this time - anything over £7mn. is a right bonus.

taglor
taglor Wrote: | 00.15BST | Jun 6, 2008

If our captain doesn't BELIEVE in MON then why the fuck should I? Good luck Barry and thanks for your service, Iunderstand you just want a chance a winning things other than finishing mid bollocks again and again and again.

Salty
Salty Wrote: | 00.22BST | Jun 6, 2008

Frankly he's had a moderate season for Villa and a good one for England. He'll do well in Pool's mid-week side and he's becoming a bit too big for Villa now ['see if the manager's ambitions meet mine'. I don't like it and I'd take £15m any day.

Villa_Rules
Villa_Rules Wrote: | 00.25BST | Jun 6, 2008

When will martin o neill learn the longer u leave ur targets and while ur sitting around haveing cups of tea and talking crap about being patient the more chance u have of loseing ur targets ?

Give gregory the doe he will bring in ronaldinho swp and other top quality players

Rogale
Rogale Wrote: | 00.36BST | Jun 6, 2008

I'm about to send you an email about little green men on Mars, maybe you'll swallow that whole too Damian.

Haller
Haller Wrote: | 00.37BST | Jun 6, 2008

I am not convinced that Barry is going to leave, its a fantastic opportunity for the lad to join a very good club. But i think Barry has seen first hand the huge transformation that o'neil has started at villa, and deep down would like to complete the job that he started 10 years ago, and get villa back into the european cup. Villa are very much on the accendancy and i think at least 5th place is our aim for next year. He would be leaving for a club that although has performed superbly as a cup team, struggles for league form and together with arsenal, risk a drop out of the big 4.

All said, if he goes.....its a shame but i wish him well, and like a fellow villain i too hope livrpool leave the cup in the early stages.....not too sour barry's season but to drain the liverpool bank accounts so they cant do the same to us next season when they come knocking for Ashley Young!!!

nhuggy
nhuggy Wrote: | 01.10BST | Jun 6, 2008

These hangers on get everywhere don't they!

stig
stig Wrote: | 01.31BST | Jun 6, 2008

i know it doesnt take long to get to liverpool from marbella/puerto banus these days, but my mates bird is a air hostess and on tuesday had hendrie and barry sitting on one of their flights to malaga.

stig
stig Wrote: | 01.33BST | Jun 6, 2008

oh and liverpool; arent they the third club in the north west these days behind manu and man city???????????????

Mick70
Mick70 Wrote: | 01.37BST | Jun 6, 2008

Liverpool Champions League campaign will flop..'cause they've used all their luck in the 2005 "win" over Milan ;)

andyarkitekt
andyarkitekt Wrote: | 01.48BST | Jun 6, 2008

Come on Damian, your better than that with your back-up evidence. If your going to cite Liverpools past glory of a 2005 CL win and say they hang on such glories, it's a bit of a bad example....Look at how much Villa hang on to our last and only European Cup glory! Accusing Liverpool of the same thing we have done for all the years we have done makes us look right numpty's.

Also Damian, stop letting my high opinion of you down. You agreed with me yesterday that Barry was average, then today he is now a good player. Stick to your guns. Average is Barry, Good is Rooney, Tevez etc and Fantastic is Pele etc. But I suppose you have added another £5 million onto his price by increasing him from avergare to good today? So well done!

I'm not stressing about this Barry stuff. At the end of the day life goes on and I firmly believe we can and should be able to get better for the money raised. But I don't think he will be actually going to Liverpool anyway, because when the other bids come in from Chelsea and Arsenal MON will accept them and then it's back in Barry's court, where MON asks him...'Well Gareth do you want to go to Chesea or Arsenal, because they have put up the best offer for you, I have to do the best for the club, I am sure you understand Gareth'....'Or you can stay here and be part of something special...something you are the foundation and hero of?' God I sould be the manager should'nt I?

Damian
Damian Wrote: | 01.55BST | Jun 6, 2008

andyarkitekt

i'm following a theme from today - that is that martin o'neill makes barry what he is - as it's thought martin o'neill can push a player up to the next level ..

i'd have barry at villa, if he wanted to stay but he wouldn't start for me and i dont think he'll start for liverpool come october - they have much much better in midfield

re. the past glories thing - we don't profess to be one of the big four and you ask a liverpool fan at the start of the season and you'll find it's only liverpool fans that think they can win the league - every year - they're deluded

we can delude ourselves with our european cup glory because it is our only one and we're a few years away from competing in that tournament again - but we all accept that and we can see what is happening.

liverpool cant accept that it's not actually a big four anymore; it's a big three and liverpool

but this post wasn't supposed to turn into this ..

Damian
Damian Wrote: | 02.05BST | Jun 6, 2008

Also - the comments about Liverpool getting knocked out of the Champions League early - that's basically because it's the reason he wants to go.

He's leaving a club that have made him extremely wealthy at a time when things finally seem to be changing around. He's leaving the manager that promised him International football and delivered on it and at the first chance to leave - he takes it.

Why would it be nice? Because regardless of the years of service, he's leaving for something he may very well get at Villa (European football almost certainly) mostly for very Dwight Yorke reasons.

jamesclaytoravfc
jamesclaytoravfc Wrote: | 02.15BST | Jun 6, 2008

i like barry but i dont really mind if he goes. and i no its a baisic certain but he if he goes i wud like him to go anywhere apart from liverpool

sal
sal Wrote: | 02.26BST | Jun 6, 2008

how many years has he served Villa, if he stays I'll make a point of looking for your next waffle, to see a huge U turn. Barry is a great player and clearly loyal. I would be gutted if Gerrard left L'pool, but I'd wish him all the look in the world. Villa are improving but look around at the other clubs, I would seven out of the top ten are on the up. Enjoy finishing in double figures!!!

WayneG
WayneG Wrote: | 02.34BST | Jun 6, 2008

If he just said straight out that he was going instead pratting around in this drawn out farce it might not leave such a bitter taste. e all know he wants to go, it's how you go that matters. Dwight Yorke Mark 2 as Damian has said.

nan was a fan
nan was a fan Wrote: | 02.39BST | Jun 6, 2008

He has been poisosned by the Gerrard Disease. Gerrard's Big Ego is the reason Liverpool cannot move forward. If Barry stays with us he may prove hamper our development in the same way. Fergie would have told Gerrard where to go years ago. That is why he can regenerate his teams so successfully. Team. That is the key word here. Buy who you like, you can't buy a team.

Not so Silent Bob
Not so Silent Bob Wrote: | 02.40BST | Jun 6, 2008

wheres gregory with that gun.............lol

seriously guys whats this all about he hasn't said he was staying he hasn't said hes going not much point dwelling on somthing that hasn't happened we are fans who put money into their fav teams and that includes the liverpool fans on here....but we dont get to decide or make decisions for the team the people who own the respective clubs and their appointed managers do so why are we all talking like we own the clubs we have no powers to change anything so whats the point speculating on nothing!!!

villafandan
villafandan Wrote: | 02.41BST | Jun 6, 2008