Wednesday, 04 June 08, 08:14 AM
Is Lisa Smith of the Birmingham Post a hottie? I hope she is after she spent her day on Liverpool supporter forums looking for quotes about why they don't want Barry at Anfield.
Funnily enough, for the few quotes she has picked up from Liverpool fans that don't want Barry, I can find just as many, almost, that would like him. Could it be because he's an Aston Villa player that so many are blinded?
Enough of Lisa Smith for now, although if anyone does honestly know if she's a hottie or not please post below and back to Barry.
Depending on the paper you read, it's either Liverpool are going to up there bid to £15mn. and hope for the best or it's £8mn and Peter Crouch that O'Neill will accept.
If I was getting paid the huge sums of cash that Martin O'Neill is getting paid, I'd happily accept both of those and I suspect he'll go for the Crouch option - we all know he likes a big man up front.
the other rumour from today is that we've had a £3mn. bid for Pascal Chimbonda rejected and that Spurs are holding out for £5mn. I'd like Chimbonda, but you've got to question why Spurs would let should a good player go?
Last rumour for the day is Michael Dawson. Apparently he is also surplus to requirements at Spurs and if we were willing to hand over £4mn. then they'd be willing to release him from his contract and let him sign one with us.
I think we all know we need atleast one more central defender, so it fits in with the grand plan.
That's it for me this morning, I'll be back this afternoon if anything happens. A signing would be nice!
Comments (61)
Crouch would be a huge mistake, he is awful and to swap him for Barry would be bordering on 2 Pints and a packet of crisps awfulness!
Lisa is a lovely lass, true Villa fan and a great laugh to be out with.
Dawson would be a good signing, definately a better player than Knight!
I think Crouch and 8 Million is the best deal we can get, we should take it, and use the money to put in a big bid for Bentley who will leave for sure now that Hughes is going to City.
Don't want either, if they are not good enough for Tottenham, then they are not good enough for us.
yeah i think you're dreaming if you think we'll sign someone today damo!
I think the most we can hope for is positive barry talks! And a link or two from Our mate Mr Howell at the mail!
who cares wot liverpool fans think. dont really want us to go for chimbonda or crouch. but dawson is a good defender, i reckon he had a bit of a dissapointin season, but spurshav always been suspect at the back. at villa he wud improve learnin of mon an playin wit laursen.
Ive given up trying to workout MON and his transfer dealing. Dawson could be a good signing,I use to like Crouch but seems to have lost it lately I think his minds on that cheating bird he as got, as for Chimbonda he is a good player prob worth the 5mil they want so offering 3mil is a bit off but thats MON for ya, the only prob with Chimbonda he seems very moody he will prob upset the team spirit.
im sure two players deemed surplus to requirements to spurs will help us get into the champions league. what happened to the righ back that was supposed to be available in janary-but then never happened? MON needs to extend his scouting network,we cant cope with premier league cast offs
Danian. I wondered why you would like a signing today. Thought you may have put today down for the 'win a shirt' comp. Today is still free if anyone wants to predict today for the first signing. See below
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CROUCH plus £8M. Yes please. I'm sad to see BARRY go, but that would be quite a good return. I'm sure MON has already lined up a replacement that can pass the ball. DAWSON at £4m also good business provided he stays injury free and regains his confidence. CHIMBONDA - No thanks. SIDWELL - Definite yes.
I really hope we push for either SWP or BENTLEY though. We also need at least two World Class players to show our immediate intention. LAURSEN for captain, and keep knocking on HENRY'S door.
Spurs rejects again - great news!!!!
Just read that MON is off to the euros to do a spot of presenting for the BBC. Is it me or should he be in Brum concentrating on keeping GB and getting some decent new players in. We've barely signed a player in the last 3 transfer windows whist he was at Villa Park, what chance have we got if he's sunning himself in Austria?
Dawson and Chimbonda would be good for us, only as squad players though. I don't rate Dawson very highly but hey, he's better than Zat Knight. Chimbonda's versatility would be invaluable to a small squad like ours, and he might even end up starting if we don't find a better right back.
Lisa Smith im afraid to say is defiantly a NOT. Pic is on the right hand side of the below page
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This story is meant to encourage him to stay - not knock him! If we told him Merseyside was waiting with open arms his impending move would be over quicker than Blues'season in the Premier League! :P
No no no no no! Anything but those clowns from Spurs. There are reasons why they have one of the most despicable defensive records in the premier league and they are it. Dawson especially made more errors than Bramble at the back last season. Villa can do so much better. We'd be giving Spurs an advantage by taking them off their hands.
If we start signing players of this class then we'll end up finishing where Spurs did last season.
Damian
Lisa's photograph at:
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Your call on the hottie status!
Sounds like we need that cockney baldy guy off the beeb (can't recall his name) to do a bit of wheeler dealing for us. Hows about £7 million for the pair and a futher £1m for Dawson if he wins more than 3 England caps next year ;)
She looks like Heather Trott...
Link to Kuyt today?!
Up the Villa!
no comment @ holte1970 lol
Barry must stay, and i wish liverpool would take no for an answer, i dont want crouch as we already have carew and on a good day he is better than crouch, and look at it this way we need a 20 goal a season striker and crouch isnt that. maybe we should go for owen, santa cruz or even henry. all these players either have no future at there club or are at a smaller club than villa and could be playing uefa cup football next season with the villa
lisa gives out! hung round parties like a bad smell back in the day! Crouch is awful. Any liverpool supporter knows how bad he is!
Team for next season...
Tubby Robinson
Titus Chimbonda, Overrated Dawson, Anthony Knightmare2 Gardner,
Wayne 'who' Routhledge, Tubby2 Huddlestone, Pedro 'only Villa and Boro would be linked to me' , Aaron head down Lennon,
Darren forth choice Bent and Kevin 'the clown' Prince Boateng...
All spurs players, that spurs are trying to get rid off. Why are they trying to get rid of them - because they are not good enough for spurs. We are linked with two defenders and a goalie from the worst defence in the league!!!!And yet Villa fans are excited everytime we get even linked with ANY of this CRAP. Typical MoN astute signings.....
Where is the ambition??
Unless we land someone like Diego as a replacement, losing Barry will represent a massive step backward.
By the way, to anyone who thinks MON doesn't have a scouting network that isn't out working, we did try to land that Bosnian kid. And what rumors did we hear about us pursuing a Bosnian? None. So we can't read much into other rumors or the absence of rumors.
People keep saying, "Why aren't we in for the same players as Man City or Pompey?" The way I see, I have no desire to mimic either team. They both finished below us last season, and they will both finish below us next season.
KEEP THE FAITH IN MON
@Villain from Texas - i agree. I don't beleive for second that Martin doesn't know what he's at. Let's not forget 16th -> 6th in two seasons. Keep the faith people. I know its tough but if Barry leaves, we don't replenish the squad withequal if not better quailty [b]and[/b] finish lower than 6th next season - then we can critise!
What the hell are you all getting so hit under the collar about the named transfers for? At the moment it's all rumour and gossip. Everyday we see about 20 main stories. But if you look, as soon as one 'made-up' story comes from some crap journalist sunning themselves somewhere in Fance then every other media outlet just copies the same news. It just looks like theres loads of activity. I know it's frustrating, but keep calm until the fat lady has sung. Until that time we have no real idea about who and how many players MON is going to sign. I have faith MON will build on what has been achieved upto now. If it comes to the end of the transfer window and the quality of players look better at that point then great, if not that's the time to start getting really worried. Whas's the point is woorying about something that's not even happened or even not going to happen. It's like me worrying that the next day your going to peg it. It could well do, but you don't worry about it. Now relax and look forward to the start of the season, you will all still be supporters whatever happens! UTV
She's not a bad looking lass, but fair play to her for trying to spoil Gareth's inevitable exit.
nice to hear that oneill wont be signing any1 from the european champsionships-now i wont have to get myself excited about seeing van der vaart,anelka, henry &/or schweinteger (sorry for spelling!) at villa park. can settle for sidwell, chimbonda, crouch and some more shit.
In MON we don't trust. At all.
I think we've been conditioned to think of slightly above average as top class.
MON is winding Red Scouse up to pay top dollar for GB.
If he gets what he wants bye bye GB.
He will be easily replaced.
If you want an example of how MON handles transfers look at the way he got rid of that muppet Baros in exchange for Carew.
I agree with AVFCpete and I sometimes wonder if MON needs some stronger glasses... he only seems to be able to see as far as other teams benches!
Theamount of people making negative comments on MON and the transfer window is simply astounding. MON has brought Villa on leaps and bounds. MON doesn't sign people because they are famous or good on Football Manager, he signs them because they can add something to the squad and progress villa as a solid team. This alng with there being a MONTH TILL THE TRANSFER WINDOW means that the moaners should shut he f**k up and look at how far villa have come. The Ellis era is over and i think some villa fans miss having somehing to moan about.
i just want to see some players coming in. barry does not to stay so off with him, dont want crouch so just take the 15m plus add ons. its goin to be mid julybefore we sign any1 cos MON is off the the euros wit bbc tv this weekend
sorry meant to say 'get you priorities right O'Neill, villa or bbc tv' at the end of that last message.
ok so its definately looking like Barry is gone and MON has asked for 8mil Crouch.... If MON wants that all well and good and he obviously thinks its the best deal for the club. So if Rafa's valuation are correct that means the value is 23mill to be honest Id rather the money out front. For 23 million MON could get pretty much what he needs ans then use RL's cash so the big signing we are all craving. Say the like's of Guzam(2m)Jussi(free)Stearman and Mattock(3m)Sidwell(6m)Milner(7m) Jenas(6m)......Thats just over the 23mil.... Then he can sign a RB CB CM ST....Id Like Ryan Taylor(5m) and Stephen Taylor(7m) as both can play RB and Ryan Taylor has played RW for Wigan on a few occassions and even got two goals in a game towards the end of the season, CM I cant make up my mind but a big signing with European experiance in a neccessaty Aimar(7m) /Van Der Vart(15m)/Velouso(18m) any of these three will also add continental flair,Striker??? Can anyone honestly say they that Gabby who is getting better every year and Carew who is starting to play really well will be kept out of the starting eleven next year except when they are to be rested... hence I think Doyle(6m) would be an ideal signing and cheap enough to as he will not expect to walk straight into the team...... Thats 60mill for 11 players of which Nine have played in the league already so only two which would be Guzam and one of the three mids would need to aclimatate tot he league..... lets get it done.....Any thoughts Guys?
jon_avfc5
just like you have a right to come on here and say what you've said, others have a right to also be a little concerned.
if we buy more players like we've already got - at the same level - we could be in serious trouble of falling back rather than kicking on from 6th
that is the concern - because we're not getting linked to any 'top class' players but more of what we've got and what we actually need is some of the top class players to kick us on - have you ever seen modric play football? he'd walk into our team and thats what most of us would like to see happen
mostly because in just over 5 weeks we play our first competitive game and you've got to fancy that martin o'neill will like to have his players back for maybe a couple of weeks before that ...
and i'm not sure what you were trying to say about the transfer windown .. but is is open
CHIMBONDA and DAWSON sounds like a nightmare to me please no, i've never seen them have a good game CHIMBONDA has zero loyalty and thinks he's better than he is and DAWSON can only head the ball he has no other ability, i may be sounding very harsh but i live in london and work with spurs fans (it's hard work) and they think their crap too! We have the whole world to choose lets not get last resorts
The huge thing here is "intent" Villa need to show it for once!
Yes MON has bought is on leaps and bounds, but his dithering in January may be his undoing. If you look at the squad, and then consider that we will be competing in 4 competitions this season, it is frightening how many new faces we need. 2 or three key injuries and we'll be screwed. Therefore we need some TOP quality players, not cast off's and bench warmers from mid table prem teams.
This summer will show if MON can be proactive and decisive enough to do what is needed to ensure we dont go backwards next season? The jury is out and by sept 1st we will know
We need so many players, and another issue here is that it takes time to integrate so many new faces successfully. So IF villa do actually do some decent business this year and bring in the 7-8 players that we need as a minimum to compete next year - will these players integrate with the style and culture of our squad? Its a risky policy MON adopts and its very much on a knifeedge as to which way itll take us
eion1981 - Spot on. Dawson? WTF? We sold Cahill for around the same money and Cahill is way better than Dawson.....
@ jonavfc5 yes the ellis era is over and I have looked and we haven't won anything more or less than then so unless we win something, whether we finish 6th or 16th it doesn't make any difference to then. Ultimately football is about winning things league, fa cup, league cup euro cup chm lge cup, have we won or come close to winning any of those lately? If we haven't do you define a successful year by being 3 points away from 8th? I'm sorry I support a premiership team and I mistakenyl thought they could aim high enough to win but maybe I should be happy with mid table and keep quiet.
MON said he wasn't scouting for players from the euro's, he said any players that is playing there he already knows about from there respective league form. He doesn't any player who has only been good in the tournament, he wants someone who can play well in league football, rather than international only!
o'neil already knows whio he wants to sign, he's already being scouting them, all believe in o'neil, i mean how many managers, can get a team 6th in the prem without a recognised right-back!!!
trust him, cos theres nothin we can do!!!
damian you said
'that is the concern - because we're not getting linked to any 'top class' players but more of what we've got and what we actually need is some of the top class players to kick us on - have you ever seen modric play football? he'd walk into our team and thats what most of us would like to see happen.'
just because we arent getting linked to any top class players doesnt mean we wont sign any. theres a big difference being linked to a player and actually signing him. its seems people are getting worked up to much about these links, which are bulls***t anyway. if it comes to 11.55pm on august 31st then il start to get worked up but not til then.havent said that i dont think martin o neill should be goin the euros as a pundit. villa should be his number one at the moment.
bill howell today stated that martin oniell is going over to the euros to scout for players. he said this after martin oneill himself stated he is only going over to the euros as a pundit for the bbc. how has this man still got a job for the evening mail. if i wanted to read aload of rubbish i would have bought osullivans, bradys and golds autobiographys
taglor is a robot who is placed on site toplay devils advocate. its true, bill howell told me.
hahaha @ rob h
Why would we want to sign Rodney Trotter? :)
But seriously, I don't think that Crouch would add anything different really to the team and he isn't really any better than Carew (although it's close). I'd go for a different genre of striker (i.e. Michael Owen/Eidur Gudjohnsen).
On the Chimbonda thing, I'm not too keen on him because I've never been too impressed by his attitude. Good player mind and would fill our right-back vacancy.
And then there's Michael Dawson, no discriptive answer needed, just a big fat NO!
UTV
a bit of a joke today, i dont think crouch, dawson or chimbonda are good enough for us, and buying other prem teams rejects doesnt show intent (face it spurs wont let them go unless they've better players lined up)
and then great news MON says he's not going to buy any players involved in euro 2008 (at least thats skys interpretation - hopefully he means based on the euros alone) this means the likes of van der vaart arent even being considered
taglor
I understand where you are from, however, I get the feeling that Mon is not your man.....fool!!!!It has been proved that a small squad can work together.
We will have a better line up come deadline in terms of talent.
What's the point in signing (say Commoms from Forest) when we can hold out for others.
We are doing the right thing.
Keep The Hope
I'll let you be the judge damo
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i think (hope) mon is going to the euro's to talk ian wright into talking his nipper into coming to the villa! u can stop poaching through agents but you cant stop father n son from having a family convo etc.... come on wrighty stop messing about with that gladiators spin off crap and listen to MON you know you want to.........lol
villadaz
shouldn't that be 'keep the faith'
or have we left that now and gone purely to hope ;)
Oh come on you cowards, stop hiding behind this 'make your own judgement' thing with regards Lisa. You know you want to call her a pig! For the record Lisa, I think your mint. That said, I think taglor's mint, so what the hell do I know ;)
lisa......one for crucial lol ;D ;D ;D ;D
Im sorry, but didnt spurs have one of the worst defences in the league last season? But yet we're after two of their worst performers, did no one else watch dawson play last year? the guy is horrendus!! Im not a huge fan of knight but he is definately better than that clown! Chmbonda isnt too bad but his attitude stinks.
Hoping for Dunne, sidwell, milner, 2right backs, Plus cheeky bid for Bent
Coming back to one of the original points on this article - Gareth Barry. Well read the article below and see what you think. Barry to make Liverpool Premiership Champions? Have a laugh read the link!
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On Barry, I do not believe MON has to sell. Sir Alex is right. Now, if MON really wants Crouch, fair play. But posing this as "that's the best we can do" I disagree with. We can keep Barry, simple as. And if MON is willing to let him go for the right price, that's fine, too. But it should be because MON wants to sell, not because players go all pouty-faced when they can't break their contracts. If Barry wants to play for England, he'll keep performing for Villa.
I like dawson and chimbonda we should do a quadruple raid on spurs signing dawson chimbonda huddlestone and lennon i think that would give us a great and even more pacey squad if martin can snatch them 4 it would be great can i see it happening NO
Barry should stay at Villa as they are on a crest of a wave, i can understand him wanting champion league football, what player with any ambition wouldnt, but then he also needs to understand, liverpool are a club going sideways, Villa are going forward.
Lets face it, if the European cup was played in it's traditional way, Liverpool wouldn't have won the cup a few seasons ago and wouldn't have had a sniff in the last 10yrs, simply as only the winners of league championship qualified for the cup, this being the case, i don't even think Gerrard would still be at Liverpool.
Barry has been quoted as saying that he was under contract, and that if MON doesn't receive what he deems a good offer for Villa, that he wouldn't sell and that he would carry on doing is best playing for Aston Villa. I think that MON should just say that Barry isn't for sale and carry on building Villa in the manner he is doing, but then again, if Barry has said to MON that he would like the move, lets get the best price for him as i only want players at Villa who are going to sweat blood and tears for the club.
I would also like to mention, why aren't Villa in for this Ramsey kid from Cardiff, isn't he young and talented and at a good price.
Woodinho you are spot on-MON only sees as far as other teams benches. although to be fair to him he does sometimes look further afield-he got routledge from the reserves!
I hope we aint getting Crouch for Barry ! Whats the point , can he play in Midfield, its about time we took a stand against these Tappers ! Man utd do, mind you they are as guilty as Liverpool , look at Yorke and Bosnich etc and they got away with that so Villa must stand firm !
Barry still has 2 Years left on his contract and unless we can get someone in WORLD class and better i.e Diego etc ! then Randy and Martin should stand up to him and say your going nowhere Sonny !!
I dont want other Bench Fodder at Villa and players that could not make the first team at Chelsea etc, we want players who are genuine quality and better than we have already.
If Barry is allowed to become another Hero to Zero Glory Hunter and it looks like He is! then off with his head, he deserves all the shit he gets and i expect any Villa fan worth their salt to do the same !
Martin and Randy youve got to start to buy big and i mean big, youve got to tell Liverpool we are not selling him , id rather let him go on a Bosman in 2 Years time than let him join the Scoucers now !
A very Angy Villa Fan
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