Roll up, roll up: Gerrard jumps on the Barry bandwagon

Written by Damian

Friday, 30 May 08, 07:51 PM

This annoyed me when I saw it and I'm disappointed that Gerrard has come and said he wants Gareth Barry to join him at Liverpool.

I think this sort of public coaxing from a close friend is probably going to be the turning point in him staying or deciding to leave.

Maybe Gerrard knows that - make that probably - and I think when this sort of thing happens it can be harmful.

Read Gerrard's words for yourself on BBC Sport Football.

I think it may become inevitable that Barry leaves us so O'Neill really needs to look for a replacement. Barry isn't good enough that he's irreplaceable. He's difficult to replace, yes, but not impossible to replace.

I don't want to be pessimistic about the situation but looking at it from a true perspective it's difficult to see what we can offer him to stay when he has a chance of playing Champions League football with his best pal Gerrard.

Yes, we are progressive club who are obviously going places, but Liverpool are already where we're heading for and at 27-years-old Barry is hitting his peak and also running out of time.

I really hope I'm wrong but it's not the end of the world if he goes.

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taglor
taglor Wrote: | 01.07BST | May 31, 2008

My friend's a Liverpool fan and has read Gerrard's biography and it says wht good friends him and Barry were in youth teams so I can understand him wanting to play with him. Iv'e said it time and again but if Barry goes it will show that Villa really aren't going to push on to the next level otherwise why would Barry miss that after all the years he's spent with us achieveing nothing and winning nothing to go now when it's so close, If he goes I will know that MON et al have been having us on.

taglor
taglor Wrote: | 01.21BST | May 31, 2008

I just read the article and I can't blame Gerrard, he just wants his mate to play in his team. I wouldn't blame Barry, he has been great for us and been rewarded with no glory or silverware so fair play, guaranteed Champions League.

Gareth Barry
Gareth Barry Wrote: | 01.26BST | May 31, 2008

So if Gerrard is such a good mate, where was he 3 years ago when Barry was playing well on the left and England picked everyone else but Barry. If Barry leaves Villa he should get used to being a part time player, who is a Gerrard's shadow because he will not be allowed to go forward like he does at Villa. If that is the height of his ambition then maybe we will be selling him at the right time. In my heart though, I hope he stays and breaks Charlie Aitken's appearance record.

rouman
rouman Wrote: | 01.31BST | May 31, 2008

hey iam a liverpool fan but know one can blame him for wanting to play c/l. and gerrard is his friend, i wish villa well for next season..

Josh C
Josh C Wrote: | 02.12BST | May 31, 2008

gerrard was in exactly the same situation, stay at liverpool or move to a bigger club like manchester united? he stayed at liverpool so its HYPOCRITICAL for him to tell barry to come to liverpool

ALTHOUGH i am a massive fan of barry, i think 12m is too little, especially as the value of english players WILL GO UP BECAUSE OF POSSIBLE NEW F/A RULES ... but i believe aston villa need nothing more than forwarding thinking midfielders

Jimmy Villain
Jimmy Villain Wrote: | 02.19BST | May 31, 2008

he's going, I think we all know that I just hope it's for a good price and or some QUALITY players in exchange, my bet is it's 10 mil plus Crouch. Problem is that to get a player of Barry's calibre you are looking at 15 mil plus

Tonebone
Tonebone Wrote: | 02.21BST | May 31, 2008

Hi is as good as gone.

Mac
Mac Wrote: | 02.26BST | May 31, 2008

The sad reality is Villa are not going to finish in the top 4 unless they have a season of unbelievable lucky breaks. What they must not do is let Barry go on the cheap. He is at the peak of his career and is currently one of England's best players. How much is Gerrard worth? Villa must not be bullied into accepting 10m. 20m seems more realistic or 10m plus Crouch and Carson. If Liverpool really want him they are going to have to pay up.

Andyeltz
Andyeltz Wrote: | 03.00BST | May 31, 2008

Just who the f*ck do Liverpool think they are? First Tom Jones tries to unsettle Barry and now he's got his captain to have a go as well! The old Liverpool conducted themselves with dignity on and off the pitch. This Liverpool seem to think it's ok to trample everything in their way to get what they want! Perhaps O'Neill should offer Barry as a straight player swap for Gerrard and see how they like it?

stig
stig Wrote: | 03.04BST | May 31, 2008

liverpool and gerrard have short memories, not as short as the closet monsters suspicious beard - but still short. do you remember all those scouse tramps jibbing into their giro's when gerrard went off down the m6/m40 and nearly joined chelsea? and how they were kicking off about chelsea tapping him up?????? hyprcrites the lot of them. if it wasnt for a scouse gangster putting the hacket into stevie-la's ribs about taking his illegitimate son with him because gerrards missus spends to much time with her ankles behind her head with other men, he would be wearing royal blue right now. liverpool fc deserve nothing, benitez deserves nothing, and gerrard deserves nothing. i hope us totenham or everton dislodge them next season - and lets face it liverpool arent going to win the title in gerrards lifetime because benitez simply isnt good enough and more interested in europe. i officially hate liverpool and gerrard for the disrespect and lack of class they have shown towards aston villa, the fans, martin o'neil, randy lerner, and most important of all the lack of respect they have shown gareth barry!!!!!!!!!!! wake up barry, their a bunch of slag.s, go to arsenal if you want to imrove your game, not the third club in the north west.

jamtomorrow
jamtomorrow Wrote: | 03.24BST | May 31, 2008

I'm not convinced he'll go. He is unlikely to play every week, and what if he isn't part of the champions league team for benitez? After all they don't do much better than us in the league and their Champ League team is almost always chock full of experienced European footballers (which Gareth is not). I can see him warming the bench on those European nights...

AV33
AV33 Wrote: | 03.24BST | May 31, 2008

It was always gonna happen Luke, great article by the way.
As much as Gareth loves the Villa and we don't really want him to leave, he will join up with Gerrard at a Champions League team all day given the chance. Look how well they linked up for England the other night with Barry setting him up with probably his first touch ! Rafa must be jumping with joy for now...(he won't be when the gruesome twosome get someone better and he loses his job !)
Barry does a quiet yet affective job for us and it was discussed on this site previously how good a job that is. But as you say, he is definately replacable if only we could find the right man.
Centre midfield is probably the only position in the team at present where we have a few good players so if we shuffled things around when Barry goes to accomodate the style of play of lets say, Mr Diego i think it could work out to be a positive move for us. We obviously need to strengthen at the back / GK positions but MON / Randy know that and it will happen.
I reckon if we can form a back four next season with a confident goalie that concede little and can distribute from deep, we wouldn't need Barry if we could hit a playmaker like Diego in CM or spread it to either flank at mercy (must get good right winger, i reckon SWP would do the trick).
The amount of service to our strikers would then be phenomenal and Carew would no longer have to rely on coming deep to win a long hoof and concentrate on hittin the net.
Mind you, he'd have to queue up with Ashley, SWP, Gabby and hopefully Diego smashin 'em in from all over the place !!

UP THE VILLA ;)

paddy
paddy Wrote: | 03.50BST | May 31, 2008

if gerrard really taught that why isn't he playing at Chelsea? That is as good as tapping up. If he is that desperate to play on barrys team maybe the scouce muppet should ask for a transfer to villa. We have enough players who go missing against the man utd we dont need one who goes missing the rest of the big 4 aswell. UTV

Mikey88
Mikey88 Wrote: | 04.04BST | May 31, 2008

At the end of the day Gerrard has come out and said that Barry should move to liverpool but personally i think the only difference between us and liverpool is Gerrard and Torres! If Gerrard came to Villa we would be challenging the top 4! If barrys going to leave because he wants to play with his mate i'd like to c lerner put in a £30 million bid in for gerrard and barry to come out in the BBC and say Gerrard has the chance to rise to a new challenge at villa! probably have to get some loan deals and cheap players in to sort the problem at RB, GK and RW but gerrard plays EVERYWHERE anyways! x

ChaterAVFC
ChaterAVFC Wrote: | 04.18BST | May 31, 2008

In my opinion, there is only one thing stoppig Gareth joining Scouseland. That is Martin O'Neil. As Barry recently said in an interview,

"Any sort of interest by a big club is flattering but I am still an Aston Villa player, I've got two years left of my contract and until some sort of bid is accepted, or the manager tells me otherwise, there is no decision to make.

"No decision has been made because no bid has been accepted."

This tells me that he is ready to leave,BUT,it looks like if a bid is not accepted he will no winge and whine about it, but will stick will Villa. So the only person or people to stop him leaving is O'Neill and Lerner. So to me if Liverpool are able to bully us into accepting an offer, Barry would leave.

Not so Silent Bob
Not so Silent Bob Wrote: | 04.43BST | May 31, 2008

didnt o'dreary get fined for tapping james beattie up?

(then still failed to sign him!)


why have gerrard and rafa not been charged?
whats good for the goose should be good for the gander etc....

the_flabster
the_flabster Wrote: | 04.57BST | May 31, 2008

Im going to disagree with a few of you here, Gerrard I dont feel has done much wrong. He has stated his desire for Barry to join Liverpool and in all honestly if that sways Barry's choice in any way then he is a weak minded person. Barry knows what he wants to do and Gerrard saying this will make no difference at all. I think we are all upset and angry that it looks like Barry is leaving (except Damian ;)) and we are looking to lash out, but Gerrard isnt a bad guy i dont feel and I actually like him. Rafa has angered me through this whole thing but Gerrard I feel has done nothing wrong.

You cant really call Gerrard a hypocrite(sp) for telling Barry to join but staying at Liverpool when he could have joined Chelsea. Liverpool are part of the "big 4" and are playing on that big stage. They may not compete for the PL title but they are alot closer to it than us. And in all fairness when Gerrard could have joined Chelsea, Liverpool were not that far off them.

I say let Barry do want he wants, he will anyway. Theres no point being bitter and blaming everyone. The sad fact is that at this moment in time Liverpool are a bigger club than we are and that may never change.

villabrisbane
villabrisbane Wrote: | 05.07BST | May 31, 2008

we're not that far behind liverpool really and i would say that at the moment they are the only team we could knock out of the top 4. so if gerrard is so keen to play with barry why doesnt he come to villa?

Beef
Beef Wrote: | 05.08BST | May 31, 2008

With Barry potentially captaining the England squad on Sunday surely he must realize that everything is going really quite well at Villa Park? Surely national recognition, being chosen to captain your nation, is bigger than warming the bench with your BFF.
Of course the man can do what he likes, I just can't comprehend how hard the choice is between the possibility of one slim chance of a champions league title over 3/4 seasons with Liverpool [u]OR[/u] getting a developing team into Europe and going down as a Holte End hero PLUS with appearances etc, history making & record breaking on the way.

Josh C
Josh C Wrote: | 05.36BST | May 31, 2008

another thing is, i seriously hope we do not get CALAMATY CARSON in the deal, any of you who constantly hope he will be good for the future, i think my cat would be a better prospect given some training

jkit
jkit Wrote: | 05.38BST | May 31, 2008

i think its more to the point that if Barry doesnt go to Liverpool then Gerrard is leaving.

holtender in toon
holtender in toon Wrote: | 07.05BST | May 31, 2008

These comments r not right. Players shouldnt b comin out in the press saying such things, its worse than real madrid wiv ronaldo n thats caused outrage! I used 2 like Gerrard till i realised he was a cheat a vp 1st game this season, 2 win that freekick. I dont blame barry for wanting 2 join the most sucessful team in english history but the way liverpool have gone about it in the press is a disgrace. I wonder what gerrard was saying to barry in the england camp

jeremiaswodo
jeremiaswodo Wrote: | 10.12BST | May 31, 2008

I would expect that Barry already knows what he wants to do and what the club will allow him to do, so it's probably a matter of whether Liverpool and MON can come to an agreement or of MON telling Liverpool he's not selling. Personally, I think he's probably gone, but I don't think he's as irreplaceable as some would suggest. It's not as if Villa suddenly became a Top 6 team because he played out of his skin this year or something. Spurs still made Europe after losing Carrick; Villa will still make Europe after losing Barry. If we buy anyone, that is.

Ghosthunter
Ghosthunter Wrote: | 12.16BST | May 31, 2008

I'm fairly convinced that if England had reached the Euro 2008 finals we wouldn't be having this conversation. Barry probably just wants to play in some BIG games and the Euro finals would probably have been enough to feed his hunger. He's probably now thinking that staying with Villa means he might have to wait to the world cup (if we qualify) and he may concerned that he may not hold down a regular England place for that long (he's not the quickest).

I think his head is probably telling him to go to Liverpool but his heart is saying stay at Villa. I'm not sure what he'll do but either way it's a risk. What if he went to Liverpool and they get knocked out in the group stages of the CL. What if we dislodge them from 4th next season etc. etc.

Personally, I think he should be wary of Liverpool - stuff ain't right there. As for Gerrard, he's probably only saying in public what he's told Barry in private so not sure it's going to make that much difference to his decision.

Jonesy 08
Jonesy 08 Wrote: | 15.16BST | May 31, 2008

Bunch of scouse wan**rs!! Fair enough that Gerrard want's to have Barry at anfield next season, but that's just disrespectful to Villa that Liverpool are coming out in public and urging Barry to go. Diden't Liverpool just have a go at Chelsea for coming out and saying that they wanted Torres and diden't they tell Chelsea to back off becuase Torres is not for sale. Well that is exactly what Villa are doing to Liverpool but they just have no respect for nobody. Never the less i think all Villa have to get use to the idea that Barry is off to become a part timer. I no everybody is going to have a good moan at MON but i think MON will only let Barry go if 1). he gets a good player exchange that can improve Villa or 2). He has someone good to replace Barry. because MON knows how important Barry is.

Damian
Damian Wrote: | 15.41BST | May 31, 2008

I'm personally fed up al this pantomime.

Barry wants to go and good riddance. Aston Villa have made him a millionaire and Martin O'Neill has developed his career exactly how he told him he would and he then goes and pisses off at the first opportunity.

He'll fail at Anfield and will, after a while, spend more and more time on the bench because let's not forget - O'Neill makes average players good and good players very good.

Barry is only a good player made very good by Martin O'Neill and that will come back to haunt him.

Let him go and just because he's done it a little differently out in the open, that Dwight Yorke, he's done pretty much the same thing.

sam_villa 1
sam_villa 1 Wrote: | 15.52BST | May 31, 2008

i dont think barry wants to go. thats why he hsnt gone yet or said hes staying at villa. he is holding out for a better team to come along like manu, arsenal or chelsea. why would he go to liverpool they ent much better than us.

neill
neill Wrote: | 15.55BST | May 31, 2008

i say no....he's to good looking to join liverfool

satch
satch Wrote: | 15.59BST | May 31, 2008

You can't blame the lad wanting to play football with someone he started his football career with and now potentially has the chance to be in the champions league next year.

I'll be gutted if he goes but the comings and goings of players plus really the lack of signings (more of not enough of them) this past year. Isn't exactly the sort of thing that will fill Barry with confidence.

If Barry leaves I don't think we should solely blame him the club clearly isn't attractive enough for the big quality players. This will be MONs and Randys fault.

Nick123
Nick123 Wrote: | 16.30BST | May 31, 2008

Personally i think that if Barry went to Liverpool it would a step down. i know it sounds strange, but liverpool are a dying team, they haven'tcome close to the premiership title in years, and when you compare them with the other big three, they don't even come close. quite frankly an over rated team. Villa on the other hand are only 2 positions away from them and are constantley improving, and run under more competent leaders. to be honest Villa and others like Everton will possibly overpass Liverpool next season. up the Villa !!!

Peter1
Peter1 Wrote: | 16.47BST | May 31, 2008

I have the upmost respect for Gerrard as a player - in my opinion there is no better midfield player in the world. But his comments here are outrageous. To be saying this about another club's player when they are both away together on international duty is absolutely wrong. Its just another example of the big four thinking that they can bully all the other clubs. I wonder how rafa "the moaner" benitez would react if Raul at Real Madrid was saying this about Torres?

If Liverpool want Barry than they should pay the going rate. Carrick & Hargreaves both cost £18 million, they are apparently selling Alonso for £16 million. So the price for Barry should be £20 million and not a penny less.

Liverpool want £10 million for Carson, but want to pay £10-£12 million for Barry - its an absolute joke.

Mick70
Mick70 Wrote: | 17.01BST | May 31, 2008

Gerrard should keep his mouth shut and worry about whether his WAG keeps her knickers on when he's playing away from Liverpool, never mind Barry.

Jon UTV
Jon UTV Wrote: | 17.07BST | May 31, 2008

GERRARD IS A FUCKING CUNT

Badger
Badger Wrote: | 17.12BST | May 31, 2008

This is nothing short of scandalous, IMO and i'm bloody fuming.
There is absolutely no need for Gerrard to say this and he ought to keep his trap shut after what has already gone on.
It's not as though he won't be constantly trying to pursuade GB whilst they're with the England squad, is it?
There is no way I'd let Liverpool have Barry now, at any price.

Villa ought to put in a serious complaint about this and come out and say we just aren't selling to Liverpool, just as SAF did.
Oh, yes, let's put a bid in for Gerrard :D

theprimeminister
theprimeminister Wrote: | 17.13BST | May 31, 2008

vogra said:
MON get your F**king hands out your pockets and sign some F**king players, would be nice to read the papers now and again to see us linked with SOMEBODY

If it's rumours you want Vogra we've had plenty I don't know which paper you read but I know of

Shaun Wright Phillips Chelsea
Thierry Henry Barcelona
Steve Sidwell Chelsea
Scott Carson Liverpool
Brad Guzan Chivas USA
Aaron Lennon - Tottenham
Peter Crouch Liverpool
Jimmy Bullard Fulham
Sam Vokes Crystal Palace
Paul Robinson Tottenham
Nelson Marcos Benfica
Stephen Carr Newcastle
Joe Hart Manchester City
Richard Stearman Leicester City
Rafael van der Vaart Hamburg
Marcos Senna Villarreal
James Beattie Sheffield Utd
Miguel Angel Angulo Valencia
Boaz Myhill Hull
Sean Scannell Crystal Palace
Artur Boruc Celtic
Brian Howard Barnsley
Daniel Van Buyten Bayern Munich
Willy Sagnol Bayern Munich
Jussi Jaaskelainen Bolton
Carlo Cudicini Chelsea
Carlos Kameni Espanyol
Pascal Chimbonda Tottenham
Gary ONeil Middlesbrough
John Arne Riise Liverpool
Jens Lehmann Arsenal
Pedro Mendes Portsmouth
David Bentley Blackburn
Kevin Doyle Reading
Justin Hoyte Arsenal
Ben Foster Manchester Utd
Richard Dunne Manchester City
Habib Habibou Charleroi
David Bentley Blackburn

However rumours mean s**t so I wouldn't worry about rumours anyway

P.S. there's 130 pages of transfer rumours on the forum if you need a fix

theprimeminister
theprimeminister Wrote: | 17.22BST | May 31, 2008

As for Barry we shouldn't be selling to our rivals if he wants to play Champions League he can go to Spain, Italy, Germany, France or wherever his agent can get him....if he got Alan Smith those moves to Man U and Newcastle he can get Barry to Lyon

RSamVillaFan
RSamVillaFan Wrote: | 17.26BST | May 31, 2008

What a loud mouthed tw*t, if that bloke was a manager surely he would be up on FA misconduct charges!
He should keep his biased trap shut!!!!

Mick70
Mick70 Wrote: | 17.53BST | May 31, 2008

No better midfielder in the world? Have a look at Pirlo of AC Milan mate..

cjamesk
cjamesk Wrote: | 17.53BST | May 31, 2008

TBH i just want it all to be over, I like the rest of the Claret and Blue army will be gutted if he went but theirs life after Barry i am sure.

Plus if he did go gives MoN no excuses to prove to him and us that it was a mistake, Everton for me are going to finsh above the `pool with us right up their arse.

For a club with all the traditions that Liverpool have the way they`ve conducted themselves is wrong and just seeing the Fat controllers smug face flls me with hate IMO I really do think `pool are a club on the decline and Rafas clock is ticking *this is our year* bull that we hear every summer.

Most scousers don`t realise that their precious captain wanted to do one to Chelsea but was stopped by a gangstar.........
Scallys hey!! lol

Peter1
Peter1 Wrote: | 18.15BST | May 31, 2008

Damian - IN MY OPINION - I find your comments about Barry a little unfair (i.e. good riddance and jumping ship). You did not share this opinion about Mellberg when he ran down his contract to join a champions lg club in Juventus - So what is the difference now? Will he play regularly at Juventus - I very much doubt it. At least we will make a tidy profit on Barry - we signed him for nothing and will sell him for £15 - £20 million. We signed Mellberg for £5 million and lost him for nothing - and we no doubt made him a millionaire.

I am not knocking Mellberg he was a good servant to the club and his gesture in giving the away fans at the West Ham game a Villa shirt was superb.

I just think you need to be more consistent - What is the difference between the two cases? Anyone would think you are Swedish.

JH123AVFC
JH123AVFC Wrote: | 18.48BST | May 31, 2008

I wouldnt be that bothered if barry went if we get Diego, yes please. check the skill n oveall play... LINK

Myles
Myles Wrote: | 19.08BST | May 31, 2008

well atleast we no what gerrard is saying by him making it public sure he was goin to say it behind closed doors so what doesit really matter if he goes public

Damian
Damian Wrote: | 19.21BST | May 31, 2008

Peter1

Technically, we didn't get Barry for nothing, but there is a profit to be made you are right. But over the past 10 years how much has he been paid?

I didn't share the opinion about Mellberg, because it's not as if he didn't want to stay. [url=http://www.avfcblog.com/content/view/1522/70/]Read this[/url] for an example of his commitment, but when the contract was finally (didn't happen when O'Neill said it was going to happen) offered it wasn't close to what he could get at Juve and you cant blame a foreign player from wanting to go play at Juve - with a real chance of winning the league.

It's also not as if Mellberg didn't have offers while at Villa, he did.

Barry, in my opinion (which is the point, it's just an opinion), has only blossomed under O'Neill - he was as good as going to Portsmouth two years ago and it's not as if he's even going to a club that can challenge for the league - he's going to money and Champions League football and again, in my opinion, he'll be on the bench as much as he is on the pitch when he does go to Liverpool - so it mirrors the Dwight Yorke scenario for me and the only difference is, Yorke was an excellent player. Barry is just above average.

I HATE BLUES
I HATE BLUES Wrote: | 19.46BST | May 31, 2008

Wre not going to break the top 4 next season or the one after that ,it may be a case we dont finish as high as we did this year.If Barry wants to go then let him ,lets get all the upheval out the way as quickly as possible and concentrate on next season ,at least everyone knows where they stand that way.It would also put an end to all those Bull sh!t begging letters everyone has been writing in the mail,theres only one person who decides if he stays or not and thats Barry himself. >:(

HolteArmyNick
HolteArmyNick Wrote: | 19.50BST | May 31, 2008

According to someone on 5Live last night they seem to think the deal will go through next week and Liverpool see it as a £15m deal - £10 million plus John Arne Riise.

If thats the case, i think it's a joke.

Let's face it, with the Euros coming up, transfers are going to be put on hold and with Moore, Mellberg, Carson and co already gone and probably Barry and Maloney, we could end up with a ridiculously low amount of players, with little time to act, especially as we'll be Intertoto cup action too.

And should a good deal come in for Marlon, I think he's on his way too ... too good to sit on the bench every single week.

As a club with a "Bright Future" we need to act like a side up the top and lay the law down, Benitez can act like a clown and say what he wants, but we should be saying exactly which players we would want in exchange and how much we'd want for Barry, if we don't do that who's going to be next to be pinched off us, Aggy, Young?

Stevie bona
Stevie bona Wrote: | 20.30BST | May 31, 2008

Can someone please tell me what the difference is between what man utd faced against real madrid about ronaldo,and what we are facing regarding gazbaz.Should the heirarchy take note of how pool do their bidding

taglor
taglor Wrote: | 21.05BST | May 31, 2008

Yes, please let somebody come in and sign Gabby 11 goals in 37 games and Carew 13 goals in 32 games if possible and get real strikers because next season everyone will be wise to our set pieces and they made up about half of all goals. It's a shame Mikkel Forsell has gone to Germany he could have been a good squad player and cheap too.

Si
Si Wrote: | 21.09BST | May 31, 2008

I think Liverpool should get done for tapping up players illegally, but the FA will probably just bend over as always. I see Gerrards rant as desparation as they're worried they won't get Barry, so Rafa got him out there on tape to say how much he wants him. The Gerrard/Barry friendship is also rubbish - I read something a while ago where Barry said he spoke with Gerrard during England duties but beyond that their friendship was "over rated" by the press.

Barry is smart, and I hope he sees this whole Liverpool saga as a reason not to go to such a bunch of crooks. Who are Liverpool and what have they done this year - nothing. They may have finished above us this year, but we've achieved more and taken more steps forward in the last year than they have in the last 2. Barry to stay, up the Villa. Rafa - shove it up your fat, Spanish, squad rotating ass.

raz
raz Wrote: | 21.19BST | May 31, 2008

Taglor - u r a doughnut. sell gabby and carew... yeah an y not sell martin o neill and the name aston villa while we're at it. get a grip...an buyin forsell. A championship striker who couldn't muster as many goals. lmfao!! an gerrards a cunt >:( >:( up the villa!!!!! ;D

Peter1
Peter1 Wrote: | 21.19BST | May 31, 2008

Again its about opinions Damian - In my opinion and MARTIN O'NEILL's Barry is an excellent player. The truth is Mellberg is just above average. Mellberg would never have got a move to a top european club - unless he was on a free. Its the same logic as Chelsea signing Sidwell.

In the case of Yorke - I seem to remember it went quite well for him as he won the treble (and 3 premier lg titles in a row).

I am not saying Mellberg is wrong, or Yorke or Barry. But you are using this an excuse to have a go at Barry again because you dont like him. But apparently its acceptable for Mellberg - because you do like him. Its not consistent or fair.

brett
brett Wrote: | 21.44BST | May 31, 2008

taglor - forsell was on a free so he'd have been very cheap, as is ivan klasnic whos a decent striker, as was degen whos an international RB and gone to be 3rd choice at liverpool, hopefully at least jussi will considered for a bosman

i just hope MON has submitted a list or something to RL and the club are actually working on something, for me you look at spurs signing modric and wonder if they'd waited until after the Euros how much they'd of paid

and have you all seen the news beckham is england captain not barry? people suggest question marks over MON decisions at times like these! whats capello on? i still think becks can do a job, but captain? hardly looking to the future

Mac
Mac Wrote: | 21.53BST | May 31, 2008

Considering Villa were about the third highest scorers in the league to start complaining about Gabby and Carew seems ridiculous. Name me a striker outside the top 4 who regularly scores over 20 goals a season? There are none. Alan Shearer was probably the only one in recent times. Players that do that cost about 25m, are looking for well over 100k a week and CL football and they won't be signing for Villa.

13 goals from 32 games is a reasonable return if he can keep that up.

taglor
taglor Wrote: | 22.06BST | May 31, 2008

Talking about England captains I thinkthis article is absolutely spot on!!! As Tony Soprano says " where have all the real men gone?"
LINK

vogra
vogra Wrote: | 22.33BST | May 31, 2008

with a SO called Billionare in charge we are COWARDS in the transfer market,end of the day we are pussies and have no bottle to push the boat out and pay wages, sorry to moan but i hate when i see pure potential in our side and we have no balls for the extra 5-6 quality on top of what we have to can push us on. i will give you 6 players who will push us on who are players we could possibly get.(not in the realms of impossibility), Shaun Wright Phillips, Kenwyn Jones, Martin Johnston, Joe Hart, El Hadj Douef (sorry bad spelling) and Peter Crouch..

vogra
vogra Wrote: | 22.36BST | May 31, 2008

Martin Johnston......oopps he's the england rugby manager, i meant to say Michael Johnston (not the sprinter) the guy that plays midfield at Man City

vogra
vogra Wrote: | 22.43BST | May 31, 2008

so with these players how about this Villa side

Joe Hart

Laursen Davies Bouma


Wright-phillips Johnston Barry Young

El Hadj Diouf

Kenwyn Jones

Aggy

505anthony
505anthony Wrote: | 22.58BST | May 31, 2008

If Gerrard wants to play alongside Barry so bad, why doesn't he just join us? He can warm our bench.

I HATE BLUES
I HATE BLUES Wrote: | 23.04BST | May 31, 2008

I am so glad Vorga isnt in charge of buying players ,Kenwyn Jones ffs he couldnt score in a broffel

I HATE BLUES
I HATE BLUES Wrote: | 23.04BST | May 31, 2008

Vogra ;D

Villa_Rules
Villa_Rules Wrote: | 23.17BST | May 31, 2008

The aston villa moto is sell sell sell

Watch this cause he reminds me so much of O Neill

LINK

^^^ Yes Vince McMahon is what O Neill is like they even from the same country

Its all about the moneyyyyyyyyy

fizzycasey
fizzycasey Wrote: | 00.03BST | Jun 1, 2008

to be honest can u blame him if he leaves us. our replacement will be sali salifou and well still improve from 6th to 5th

taglor
taglor Wrote: | 00.10BST | Jun 1, 2008

The only difference there Villa_Rules is that when MON says that he has a little chub on. PS How many professionals are in our team now?

satch
satch Wrote: | 00.28BST | Jun 1, 2008

[quote]Brad Guzan Chivas USA [/quote]

GUZAN still does not qualify for a work permit yet he was one step closer when he came on for the yanks against us the other day.

If we don't sign two in the mean time he will no doubt finally come to Villa park once the home decide he isn't here to claim benefits....

satch
satch Wrote: | 00.29BST | Jun 1, 2008

home office*

spelling like a spaz!

Tonebone
Tonebone Wrote: | 02.04BST | Jun 1, 2008

Damian mate you are clueless. as is anyone for criticising Barry for considering going. He is 27 years old and has max 4/5 good years at top level. left. what are villa going to challenge for in that time. Nothing!!! ok liverpool may not win the league, but they have more chance of that that we have of winning anything. and they will challenge for every other trophy including as proved over the last 4 years the champions league. so Barry can actually win something in his career!!
Yes liverpool may pay him more, but so will every bloody premiership club - pompey were willing to pay him 50% more than he is on at villa for example. Its villa as a club that have the problem we cant challenge and keep these players if we dont pay the wages.
He is being offered a job at the top of his profession where he can gain more recognition, win more trophies, have medals to show his grandkids etc etc and as well get paid far more money. Its a no brainer for him and to blame him for going and suggest he is making a bad decisin just shows how clueless you are!!
And as for Yorke - ok i wasnt happy when he left - but he won the treble and scored a shedload for Man utd, got rated by cantona and beckham as one of the best strikers they have ever played with - if u think he made a wrong decision i am amazed!!!

Tonebone
Tonebone Wrote: | 02.06BST | Jun 1, 2008

Vogra so you are playing 3,5,2. Clearly u have been asleep for 6 years as that is when everyone in the football world realised that system didnt work!!!

ronny
ronny Wrote: | 15.18BST | Jun 1, 2008

take him !!
we don't need him!!
the only reson pol whant him is because they can take him from
us and he whants to go so GO.

WayneG
WayneG Wrote: | 16.05BST | Jun 1, 2008

Can't he just make up his mind and bugger off? Someone else will take his place, that's what happens in football. Andy Gray went, Peter Withe came in.

Damian
Damian Wrote: | 16.31BST | Jun 1, 2008

Peter1

You are clearly just looking for ways to have a pop and it's tiresome - you've been doing this now since your first post and under different user names.

How old are you? Grow up or please don't come back.

It's not about what Yorke won or how good players are based on an individual option. I'm saying I'm fed up with this - we all know he's going to Anfield and we all know that Barry (or his people) have spoken to them, worked out salary and everything else.

I'm saying - the way he's going about this is much like how Yorke did and Yorke still gets stick. But maybe you're not old enough to remember how Yorke left.

Tonebone

Do you remember the Yorke saga? What Barry is doing is pretty much the exact same.

And as an aside - Liverpool can do so much better than Barry, but thats just my opinion.

remolds
remolds Wrote: | 18.26BST | Jun 1, 2008

Firstly if Gerard is so keen to play with Barry nwhy dont he come to the Villa.
Secondly dont offer Barry a new contract he has already got one so just tell him hes not going anywhere. He will still perform as he wants to stay in the England frame. Next season when we qualify for the champions league he will want to stay, give him a new contract then.

Kieran McGrath
Kieran McGrath Wrote: | 19.22BST | Jun 1, 2008

why is there no football icons coming out and saying gareth should stay

phaedrus
phaedrus Wrote: | 20.30BST | Jun 1, 2008

don't you think it is about time that MON adopted the approach to Barry that Ferguson has adopted with regard to Madrid and Ronaldo ?
I think we could also do without being patronised by Liverpool fans such as Rouman.
Liverpool are the poorest of the 4 champions league placed teams by quite some way and certainly the team that ourselves,Everton and Tottenham should be targeting.

rh-villa959
rh-villa959 Wrote: | 22.51BST | Jun 1, 2008

rafa benitez only wants to sign barry to keep gerrard happy .without him on his side hes two games away from the sack

Dan Winston
Dan Winston Wrote: | 04.22BST | Jun 2, 2008

Why don't we bid for Stevie G if he is so keen on playing with Barry. Randy has the money and it would be a great signal of ambition irrelevant whether they or the man himself accept.

Villa_Rules
Villa_Rules Wrote: | 09.01BST | Jun 2, 2008

Why cant we report them to fifa man u was guna report madrid over ronaldo so why cant we or is that rule just for the top top clubs?

Woodinho
Woodinho Wrote: | 09.18BST | Jun 2, 2008

Ok, GB is left footed, has no pace but makes up for it with a decent football brain, he's hardly Christiano bloody Ronaldo is he! He turns slower than an arctic truck - but again - is clever about it coz he's worked out how to turn his fat lard ass without using pace... he is not naturally gifted in any sense, has no skill, can pass a ball decently enough with his "prized left foot" and scores penalties (but so can I), but at the end of the day would you not rather see someone with a bit of inventiveness in our central midfield??? Like a Benito Carbone, a Paul Merson, even a young Lee Hendrie had a bit of vision about him and flair! What I'm saying is he'd be a loss, but not a great one!

We've all seen that NRC is going to be our ball winner/used to break up opposition plays, but barry is just a more polished version of NRC - or look at it this way, NRC is like Barry a few years ago, and it wont take long for NRC to catch up and be just as good, maybe even better if he can learn how to shoot!

I'm just saying that with Barry and NRC in the team our midfield lacks creativity and in some ways balance, it's pretty flat to be honest, this is obvious to anyone by the amount of goals we score from open play - I haven't looked at the stats but it cant be many when you consider everyone's harping on about all our set peice goals! Take Ashley Young out the team and who's there to set up the strikers??? That brings me to my next point, Gabby & Carew struggled for goals this season and would benefit massively from a creative midfielder, I (unlike some) think the two have got bags of goals in them, but lets be honest, Gabby is not the type to score from set peices, and Carew needs it almost on a plate, so a creative midfielder - someone to play gabby in with a pacey through ball or a neat flick for big John to smash home - would be better than a lard ass who plays it simple!

Barry just hasn't got that creativity in his locker as he cant beat players to get into possitions to play that killer ball, he'll just "lay it off, simple ball, and take credit for keeping possesion" thats his game totally summed up!

He'd do well at Liverpool being an understudy to Gerrard, they'd be like footballs Lorrel & Hardy, Gerrard pulling the strings and Barry scratching his head "simple" style! But, just think of the possibilities it would open up for us though should he leave for a tidy sum... a bit of cash to splash on a creative playmaker (foreigner would be nice for a change!) and the balance, shape and look of our midfield totally changed for next season, some excitement for a change in the middle of the park! I'm sure MON has already thought of this and is being quite snidey about the whole thing to get more money from the scousers!!! (By the way I wouldn't want any of their player in exchange, just the reddies!)

To sum up my half-drunk rambling I'm just trying to say that we shouldnt worry too much about losing GB, in fact I think it could be the making of our midfield, our attack on the top 4, and our strike force!!!

UP THE VILLA, and goodnight!

pazzler
pazzler Wrote: | 14.12BST | Jun 2, 2008

thats a great idea, lets bid for gerrard. then keep him on the bench! seriously, gerrard is an idiot. needs to keep his gob shut, liverpool are always gonna be the lowest of the top four. villa will be challenging liverpool so it makes sense to stay, regardless of whether u rate or slate barry

philbob88
philbob88 Wrote: | 15.23BST | Jun 2, 2008

I think Gerrard was well out of order what he said in the papers!! I'm getting sick of them Dirty, gravy munching, thieving f*cking scousers! It makes my blood boil! Gerrard has completely lost my respect which is a shame because as a footballer he ain't half bad! But to come out in public and say what he did is well out of order! I think Martin should report them to FIFA as it is blatantly trying to unsettle a player which is under contract at AVFC!

It pis*es me off because just because they're Liverpool and they have won 5 european cups they think they can get anything! Gerrard is a c*nt!

I still think Barry will stay loyal though, but in honesty, my heart still really hopes he'll stay!

philbob88
philbob88 Wrote: | 15.23BST | Jun 2, 2008

oh and just for good measure, Rafa Benitez is a c*nt too!

villadaz
villadaz Wrote: | 21.05BST | Jun 2, 2008

Let him go....Slow, can't tackle, not enough goals, timid and only loyal when he needed it. Take the £10m.....Get Sidwell who ran him all over the place two seasons ago. Laurson for Captain.

andyarkitekt
andyarkitekt Wrote: | 04.38BST | Jun 3, 2008

Let Barry go for at least £15 million and get Diego. Even pay Diego £100k a week. If Villa are prepared to pay Barry £80k a week then the money saved selling Barry and buying Diego (rumoured fee at £10 million) will pay for the additional £20k a week wages. Plus lets face it Diego's name alone is gunna make the club more money than Barry. Also theres loads of foreign players that are better than Barry for less and would want less wages. They would be happy to play in the EPL. THey probably have no idea where Birmingham is in relation to London, so the London draw thing will possibly not be a factor. MON is going to be building a new squad over the next two years so I have every faith and patience now. Lets face it, he's going to have to buy a load of new players and model a new squad in his style cos we ain't hardly got anyone left! UTV

andyarkitekt
andyarkitekt Wrote: | 05.27BST | Jun 3, 2008

Just this minute been updated on the 'The Indepenedent' website that basically Barry is off to Liverpool. He's spoke for the first time! I's about bloody time. MON, now get on do the deal with the Spanish Tom Jones and get some money to invest in a decent player. Don't sell-out the Villa faithfull with a low shitty fee for Barry. He's wanted so much by Liverpool he's easily worth £20 million. In fact sell him to Spurs for that much, they think they are going to make CL football next year, so Barry will be well chuffed

I hear Bosnich wants a return to Englich football. I really think with the MON factor he could make Bosnich as good as he was. Keepers get better with age, don't they? UTV

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