Written by Damian
Friday, 23 May 08, 10:54 AM
Rumours are worse than Marmite because you both love them and hate them. Some are embarrasing, some are mouth watering, some probably, some improbable.
Feel how you like about being linked to Paul Robinson of Spurs, but I think I'd rather have Carson - and that says something about Robbo's career.
Today's Daily Star reckon we're going to battle out for Robbo with Bolton for a pricely £5m. Much cheaper than calamity Carson and more experience.
I'm not going to comment much as I'm not really a fan of either keeper, but we do need someone and Robbo would do as backup - but would he come to be 2nd best? Unlikely.
Enjoy your Friday and take a leaf out of Damian's book - have some beers.
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Transfer Window Watch
IN: Curtis Davies, Steve Sidwell, Brad Guzan, Brad Friedel, Nicky Shorey, Luke Young, Carlos Cuellar, James Milner
OUT: Patrik Berger, Scott Carson, Luke Moore, Olof Mellberg, Thomas Sorensen, Shaun Maloney
Comments (40)
Give me Robbo over Carson any day of the week..
Robbo's natural goalkeeping ability is not in question, its his confidence and decision making. With some good coaching and MON building his confidence back up, he will go back to his days as englands number 1, where people couldn't speak highly enough of him.
I agree with you Luke i do not rate either keeper and believe if MON looks further afield he will find a keeper that will vastly improve the team.
Look further afield, look further afield.
Looking further afield is no guarantee of anything. We need the right players with the right attitude.
Keep of Football Manager for a few hours
Why not simply take Jaaskelainen on a free? Top notch keeper at the top of his game. Where's the argument?
i think you should look at why robbo is being allowed to leave - spurs are obviously lining up a world class keeper to take his place
I wish just for once it was us going for the world class players rather than letting our rivals get them and then clean up the scraps
plus if bolton are after robbo does that mean jussi is as good as gone?
i'd rather have him than carson or robinson
i wouldnt mind robbo, hes alot cheaper that carson and more experience, he does have great goalkeeping quality he wouldnt of been england number one if he hadnt but his confidence is knocked, mon has a great reputation of getting players with low confidence and building them into quality players, i think mon would get him back to his best when he was england number one and i think it could be a great signing.
I would prefer Robinson to Carson. I used to be a big fan of his, but recently his form has been a little hit and miss. However, even this season, when he has played, he has shown signs of brilliance, world class saves. I have not once said that about Carson this season. Before the England nightmare he was average at best. However, i would still prefer a foreign keeper. The Egnlish ones always seem prone to mistakes (more than usual)
Difficult one, think I would prefer Carson if they were both priced equally, but If Robbo is half the price of Carson I would go for him, as he is definitely not half the player!
Really isnâ€t much between the 2 of them!
both useless - can we please start looking abroad!!!!!!! when are we going to realise there arent enough good young english players to move us on!!!
We should get Jussi or Carlo Cudicini. Players who've proved themselves to be quality year in year out in the Premier League. Casron or Robinson could prove themselves, but its too big a risk to see if a keeper can come good after underperforming for the last year. I have never fully rated Robinson, even when he was taking the plaudits earlier in his career
Paul Robinson is a class keeper, people get on goalkeepers backs when they have a rough run, look at David "flapper" james. He was ragged for a few seasons and now any team in the league would love to have him, keepers get better with age and it's a big confidence position that MON could give him. I'd be very happy with Paul Robinson…
Carson had a shocking season, Paul Robinson is fat.......................All good teams have a good goal Keeper so lets stop messing about. Go get a top keeper is my nessage to MON. Not an average Liverpool 3rd choice of a fat Spurs reject.
Meesage & or......sorry
Bloody hell...message even
I woul like to think that we have a goolkeeper in place for he start of ext season who isn't strule with their confidence. That is why we need we should not be looking at Robinson or Carson as our number one next Aug. In a slightly related topic i just came across an article on newsnow.co.uk. that if the quote is corect is another unbelievable comment made by on of own. Bouma appartently said that Gomes the PSV keeper should not come to Villa Park but should go a bigger club. Here is the link : www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=94432
What was Bouma thinking. that is one of the stupidest quotes I have ever heard a player to say. If he thought it, he should have kept it to himself considering Villa are currently thinking of giving him a new contract
looks like bouma has been eating too many 'bergers'. on the keeper front, id rather hav carson as he has more potential then robbo. but jussi, that would be tops.
even if robinson wasn't having a crisis of confidence he's too beatable from long range whereas carson is an excellent shot stopper he can also be prone to letting screamers in(as well as weak backheels) maybe new scenery would do robbo good? maybe carson will be more relaxed under contract? and although jussi and carlo are very good keepers they're just a bit too old for my liking.
I think we should do the loan thing for a keeper again, meaning Ben Foster he should jump at the hance coz it doesnt look as if he'll get number one at old trafford in the next couple seasons!!! I think we should leave taylor as our number two though he's ot that bad!
As cover for Stu? Absolutely. As our #1? No way.
cant belive that o neill would touch robbo with a brge poll, MAYBE olton mite.
can we please go 4 jasskilinen of given or foster - or at least someone we dont already know is sh*t!
i cant believe bouma said that either, players need to be thinking / believing / telling people that we can challenge the top 4
Am a Spurs fan and would be disappointed if Robbo left WHL. He's an excellent keeper and potentially will be back to his best and Englands number 1 next season. There's numerous reasons for his poor form: 1. We've had no goalkeeping coach this season 2. He's had numerous CB pairings in front of him this year, the worst being Kaboul/Dawson Ledley Kings injury was a huge loss 3. We never replaced Carick, there's a big hole in front of our back 4, JJ is attacking, Zokora goes missing and THudd is just too slow. This is why he is being beaten from long range so often.
His decision making for crosses and set pieces has admittedly been suspect,but hopefully this will be rectified with our new GK coach. Stay or go Robbos a top pro and should he regain form will be a force once again. PS. We have about 10 other duds like Routledge if you're interested!!! :P
I can't believe people on here actually think Paul Robinson is sh*t.
He has natural ability, and was playing very well up until a season maybe a season and a half ago.
He is a young keeper who lost his confidence, much the same way as Carson did when he made a mistake playing for his country. Goalkeepers are easy targets for blame, and a single mistake by them can cost you a game, but on the flip a single save by the can make you Eurpean Champions (ala Van De Sar).
I think with the right coaching and some words of encouragement from MoN Paul Robinson could once again be the best in the country.
Honestly the short sightedness of some supporters is nothing short of embarassing.
Jussi Jääskeläinen please! he'd be a free as well!
Whats Bouma playing at! Where has he been for the last 20 odd years? on the milky way? We're bigger than the famous Man Utd! the pope didn't tell us to F*ck off!
I'll shoot myself if we sign Paul Robinson aka Enckelmans twin bro!
Robinson would be a very good signing for us, send carson back and lets forget about him.
Spurs are signing Coupet from Lyon for £2.5m.
Jussi or Robinson for me with Guzan as understudy.
i think boumas just helped us dodge a bullet, gomes is a brilliant shot stopper but my god he's dodgy at crosses! in the spurs uefa cup games he was so irratic it was untrue
I would think that if we haven't put in a bid for Cudicii or Jääskeläinen (thanks for the spelling lesson Tommy) we have let a fantastic opportunity go begging. MON took Carson on a season loan because he knew that GK's were not being made available last year. Now there are - we should be going all out for them. MON is no mug, therefore I think we shall have a pleasant surprise in a week or two. Bouma smokescreen anyone?
Just thought I'd throw another name in the hat as a potential new keeper . NEIL ALEXANDER of Rangers, he looks quality and is considered there number two . Dont know if they would sell but still worth a shout I think .
people are saying that you need a good keeper to challenge at the top end of the table, tottenham finished fifth last year and were in the running for fourth until the last day of the season a few years back. don't write him off, i'd have him over carson any day, at least robinson speaks.
Carlos Kameni anyone??
I'd rather have a guy fawkes in goal as he would be better and you could pull his arms off and stuff.
bring back myhill and rotate him and taylor every few games.....
we were as close 2 fourth at stages with sorenson in goal under o leary.
listen people have got 2 stop over rating players just because pundits on sky and bbc say such a such is brilliant - it only happens because they are english! crson is average. the idea that robbo has been good before this season is laughable. the truth is england havent ever replaced seaman and there hasnt been any1 else. james has been tried and failed. stop beleiving these guys are good - robbo was CONSTANTLY BEATEN OFF HIS LINE at leeds!
the same goes for rio - vidic bails him out constantly, and when he is out, rio gets a niggle - 2 cover his arse when he is found out.
Trust me i live in scotland and watch a few rangers games and Neil Alexander is Carson number 2! I'd prefer there first choice keep McGreggor he's much more solid and commanding. Next Keeper we'll be linked with will be peterborough's after he was called up to the england squad.
why oh why all the fucking time do we have to have the scraps off other teams, if they're not good enough at there own clubs why the hell should we want them...reo-cocker,harewood routeledge need i go on. Why don't we show some fucking balls in the transfer market, i see we linked we NOBODY in the transfer market...what a suprise!!
@ Vogra
So you want players from thin air ? because every player comes from somewhere else. It's funny you say about Reo-Coker & Harewood but i bet you cheered the goals harewood scored or set-up ? and i bet you also applauded Reo-Coker stopping an opposition attack with his tackling and the goals he set-up ? Or did you each time that happened did you say i wish we never signed them ?. Final thing name me two players better than Reo-Coker & Harewood for the same prices, that we could have got last season and still finished 6th.
Salifou for number 1