WezAVFC
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this may be a stumbling block for villa because where do you think all the major teams would come looking for the top english talent (villa). Another point is that managers go foreign due tot he lack of youngsters making it at grass roots level for all the money in the game there is not enough decent coaches at that level or facilities i think they should invest heavily in grass roots! |
MJ
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| i suppose it would be ok in an idle world but personally i dont think it would work. all i would succeed in doing is inflating an already rediculous britsh player price, so therefore the only clubs able to afford these players would be the big 4. the rest of the clubs would be fighting for lesser players and the rest of the prem would ultimately end up like the championship. this would then mean that the national side would be made up of players soley from the big 4 so if your club does nuture talant that said player would leave to fullfill his international ambitions. nuff said. |
PaulE
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Interesting article. As WesAVFC said, the top 4 would plunder our best players if this rule came in. We might get away with it if it came in after the transfer deadline, but I don't think it would benefit anyone in the long run. |
villafandan
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if they change the rules to introduce 50 minute halves, that would have bugger all to do with the EU. if they change the rules to discriminate against employment along nationality (read racial) lines i think you'll see how much it has to do with the EU. won't happen. blatter's wasting his and everyone else's time. |
villafandan
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chris, as your stats demonstrate, england have failed on the international stage before and after the influx of foreigners in our domestic leagues. blame for 1 trophy (gained on home soil) in nearly 60 years lies entirely with the english national set up. i don't know how many english players are in the prem, but i'd guess a couple of hundred (based on your 280 non-uk players). if that's not a big enough talent pool of players plying their trade in the world's best league to pick a 23 man squad to win a tournament then something is seriously wrong. and if anyone thinks for a second that blatter's motivation to install quotas on clubs has anything to do with england's abject failure on the international stage then they're deluding themselves. |
kohoutek
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Yeah, if it were implemented soon, Villa might very well have their stars plundered. Conversely, it might mean, as Damien suggests, that Villa would have a shout at becoming instant PL royalty, which would seem to offer a reason for the players to stay. But, yeah, Utd have a decent number of English players. While I have no love for them, I've preferred to see them win, among the top 4, as opposed to Arsenal. The national team's failures reflect the failure to develop young talent properly. Witness France's ascent in world football. More English players would be in the PL if England were developing more young footballers who can be composed on the ball, play one-touch football, have the proper vision, etc. If you cap the number of foreigners, the numbers would be made up by players that are inferior at the moment. The PL's overall quality would be diluted, and it wouldn't necessarily mean that the players would get better. Success for the England team lies in developing talent that can push its way into PL starting places. The one aspect where this breaks down is the top 4's stranglehold on CL places, meaning that only their English players get that experience. So, a cap doesn't help if we're talking PL starting places. But I suppose it might have an effect though if it upset the PL pecking order. As villafandan said, there should be enough English players to select a team. But England have had a habit of selecting the biggest names, which doesn't always add up to the best side. |
AmericanVillan
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I actually compiled a spreadsheet of all foreign-born players on Premier League clubs back in November and wrote a post on the matter. Let me know what you think. http://americanvillan.blogspot.com/2007/11/open-season.html Spreadsheet only is here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pF1VU_Xm4bX2APByAkxKJEQ |
villa_sheepshagger
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| If this is the case then Barry's 'pending transfer' out of Villa Park should be doubled in price as he is a top class English player. |
mike s
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| Well if that happened it would be good for villa cos we've got class english players and we're still in the top 10 of english teams. Where as arsenal would fall completely. And that's only to name one team. we have players like barry aggy young gardner (moore) reo-coker carson and they are all english. |
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