Away day loss: Fulham 2 Aston Villa 1
Written by Damian   
Sunday, 03 February 2008

Well, what can you say to that. Beaten by a team that started the day and remain in the bottom three, despite picking up three points.

Still, it's the not the end of the world; we're still 6th and I fancy three points next weekend.

I did get a text message from a mate who is a season ticket holder at Craven Cottage just before half time. Translated from drunk text speak to English it reads 'your lot are the loudest we've had here this season' - which is a positive from the day, if you were looking for positives.

Onto something that will no doubt wind a few of you up - what is Martin O'Neill doing with Gareth Barry?

In the second half he switched Maloney to the right and Barry to the left. I'm not saying it was a bad idea but if the manager would rather switch Barry from centre midfield to left back and left midfield.

It could be seen that the manager likes having that utility player in the team or his hand was forced because there was no Ashley Young, so my question tonight is; is Barry our full time utility man or a key player in the centre of midfield?

Worryingly, Gabby came off at half time with a suspected hamstring injury. Don';t know much more than that yet so we'll wait until the club say something. Harewood looked lively though for the second half.

I'm not going to look at the statistics of how many shots we had and how many were on target because I don't think it was enough and this really isn't a match report, more an announcement of the defeat.

I will say this; we're still in 6th place which is a good place to be.

Aston Villa: Carson, Mellberg, Laursen, Davies, Bouma, Petrov, Barry, Reo-Coker, Maloney, Agbonlahor, Carew.
Subs: Taylor, Harewood, Knight, Gardner, Osbourne.

Fulham: Niemi, Baird, Hughes, Andreasen, Hangeland, Konchesky, Bullard, Davies, Murphy, Dempsey, Nevland.
Subs: Keller, Volz, Bocanegra, Kamara, McBride.

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taglor said:

Not so rosy now is it? At least our new signings can cover Gabby and Davies, oh oh dear we didn't get any cover did we? As for those that harp on about MON waiting for the right players, well on this evidence he is s**t aat picking players, today coker=crap petrov=crap harewood=crap maloney=crap
February 03, 2008

Oscars Arse said:

A dire performance and an insult to the traveling faithful. If a team has hopes of getting into Europe sides like Fulham have to be beaten and beaten well. I fear we've peaked too soon and without new signings to give the team impetus I think Europe is beyond us and, before I get called a pessimist or worse just look at the goals against column and the leads we've let slip. Another draw if we can scrape a team together next week?
February 03, 2008

smiavfc said:

A very abject and disappointing peformance, no fluidity only harewood looked interested. Carson at fault for second goal and agbonlahor and davies both injured. No positives really and we have to win next w/e after seeing newcastle get dominated by middlesborough. smilies/cry.gif
February 03, 2008

alextaylor24 said:

deserved to lose but should of won. laursen gets in so many positions and misses so many chances. he would be up there adebayor if he could finish but the easy chance he missed cost us. my oh my do we miss young. we could not create anything.
February 03, 2008

Jfourplusone said:

Woefull performance - Clueless, passionless and lacking creativity. It just goes to show the strength of our squad when a half time injury and Ashleys suspension reduces the quality to that. I can't remember Niemi having a save to make. Time for a clear out in the summer I thinks...
February 03, 2008

Dan the villa fan said:

Extremly dissapointing result, i dont knw how petrov keeps getting in that side in RM, fair play to the lad he puts the work in but he just does not seem to have the quality to play out there. These are the teams we shud be beating comfortably, but hey ho things could be worse we could be managed by O'Dreary and be 16th and only having 2 wins on the row nevermind 2 losses as it is now, Keep behind the lads! The futures still bright, its claret and blue!!
February 03, 2008

sirdjsmith said:

Worst villa display since ONeill toke charge. Very, very poor everywhere, we couldn't string any passes together what so ever.
February 03, 2008

Michael P said:

Can all the optimists and the 5 year plan brigade please hurry and inject some deluded ramblings to this post before the negativity reaches Morrissey levels..jokes aside we were poor, we play long ball after long ball and if we are progressing, it is at the pace of a stoned snail. MON, your cautiosness on the transfer market's gonna cost us dear - buy yourself a copy of World Soccer and start learning about players beyond the Scottish league, I know of housewives with a more extensive football knowledge than those buffoons at Villa Park. And for God's sake, start playing some football on the bloody ground, we look like a conference side at times! Gutted.
February 03, 2008

Az_ said:

Petrov had very little to offer in right midfield, therefore something had to change so he stuck Barry on the left and Maloney on the right. What else could he have done? I think it was the right decision (the only one actually IMO) but in the end I don't think it helped. In the first half I think Maloney played very well down the left wing, though I have to fault him for being greedy shots wise. In the second half, he seemed to fade away on the right, and I think that really didn't help us as we do rely on the wings.

As for Barry, he has quality in all those positions mentioned, he is versatile in that respect but I highly doubt MON will move him from the centre as it is his best position. As we a talking about Barry, you can say he lacks pace, I'd say he has average pace. Can't tell me Gerrard or Lampard are particularly quick players.
February 03, 2008

taglor no. 2 said:

i'm and idiot. i think im really big being negative all the time, im not villa til i die im villa til we lose, and even when were winning it isnt good enough. it doesn't seem to matter to me that 2 seasons ago we were 16th and now were 6th, a ten place improvement isnt good enough. neither are the 4 players in capellos first 23 man england squad cus i think we are going down with the city, then ill be happy that i proved u lot wrong.
February 03, 2008

nan was a fan said:

Harewood needs a start. He looked good today.
My attention was drawn away from NRC onto Barry. Starting to agree with Damian that he's in the wrong place. Didn't feature at all today. Thought Maloney was OK, just made some poor decisions.
Fair play to Bullard, happy for the guy despite pain it caused us.

Guess some of you out there are delighted with Gabby injury and are hoping Davies is more serious than it looked. With any luck we'll struggle to field 11 men for the next few weeks, miss out on Europe, MON will resign under weight of criticism and we'll be back to mid-table obscurity with the odd relegation battle thrown in.
February 03, 2008

Az_ said:

taglor > taglor no. 2
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February 03, 2008

I HATE BLUES said:

Alextaylor24- your a muppet , Laursen is a defender so how the F**k you can compare him to 1 of the best strikers in the prem is beyond me.How many goal scoring tackles has adebayor made you muppet.As for today we just wern't in it but we will bounce back.
February 03, 2008

Michael P said:

Taglor no.2: as much as I appreciate that Taglor's negative no matter what, he has a point on a number of issues whether you like it or not. You may be happy with long balls and crap transfers, 5 year plans and missing opportunity after opportunity when it's obvious NOW was the time to build on what we had achieved so far. Some hope for quicker progression for this club, something that can be (and has been by many) achieved without approaching every decision with the cautiousness of an OAP crossing the road.
February 03, 2008

Matt AvFc said:

smilies/angry.gif smilies/sad.gif smilies/shocked.gif A shocking performance from us. i am not angry with the players but i am well mad with MON. I watched Blackburn and Fuhlam. I am sorry to say this but i could not see any attacking pressence in both games, i have noticed that we only seem to score from set plays thats whats worrying me. MON new full well that if we where to keep pressing for europe players needed to be brought in. Wanye routledge is ok and i was suprised that he wasnt on the bench. Isiah osbourne made the bench thats how desperate we are for players. Players are not peforming well agbonlahor hasnt played well for the last 4 games petrov has not performed well all season that was one of the people we needed maybe to be replaced good quality creative midfielder as petrov hasnt done the buisness. we havent got a major goalscorer John carew is like milan baros Plays well 1 game out of five.we needed maybe a quality striker i was routing for defoe or crouch. i think without sufficient buying in January and a serius of draws are chances are slipping of europe. Cheers MON for some great business in january i will be suprised if we dont end up mid table. beacuse i cant see harewood agbonlahor carew scoring much more goals
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villa07 said:

disappointing performance, no real positives, cant believe you people say harewood should start the next match - no where near the quality we need. why was c davies laughing when he gave away the foul on ex team mate kamara?? the bloke's a clown. we're going to miss olof. we must keep the faith, win next wkend, give joey (you're supposed to be in jail) barton some stick, up the villa!
February 03, 2008

Anthony Capaldi said:

the reason he moved barry is because that joke petrov doesnt understand how to play right mid and it was the only way to give the team some balance. as always the owner of this websites knowledge of football is a joke, then again what do you expect from a man that rates liam ridgewell.
February 03, 2008

jinksy said:

Well where do i start.
1. Carson 10million your having a laugh...That 2nd goal was staight in the middle of the goal. Crap Goalie.
2. Reo-Joker did what he always does NOTHING s**t player.
3. Petrov runs his socks off but is just not good enough.
4. It proved today that when we have suspended or injured players our squad is pathetic.
5. We have no chance of European football next season & thats down to MON & is disasterous transfer dealings.
6. We will now slowly slide down the table.
7. A massive opertunity missed because our club has no ambition......but what's new.
February 03, 2008

kohoutek said:

Defo not one for the ages today. The real disappointment came in conceding the equalizer so quickly. Bit fortunate with the og, although had Hughes not played it, it would've fallen to Carew. Carew's problem seems to be that he lacks "quickness". I think he's on par with an Adebayor otherwise, but he's not "quick" in the box. If Gabby hadn't gone out, I was hoping MON would put Harewood in for Carew. If Laursen connects, it was game over.

Fulham were the hungrier, more desperate side, and every 50-50 call seemed to go against Villa. Fulham had more time on the ball, and were moving better off it. Still, Villa generally soaked up the pressure well, but the counterattack wasn't really working all day. Petrov just can't really seem to find his way into the game. But more than anything, just didn't seem as though Villa were moving well off the ball, and Fulham's constant pressuring seemed to put them off.
February 03, 2008

My old man said be a City fan, Guess what I told him? said:

Poor, poor performance.
Fulham are a poor side, and we made them look good.
No attacking flair upfront or in midfield, long balls and long-range shots didn't work, but we had no backup plan with Ashley out.

I am probably missing an obvious point, but why was Routledge not involved?

Luckily for us, this is a rarety, and we are still fine, and will be fine. A slightly unlucky way to lose, they didn't really have many more chances than us.

Great support...Well done.
February 03, 2008

taglor said:

I agree taglor no2
February 03, 2008

dan123 said:

Bad, bad result. I think today showed how much we rely on quality delivery from young, no point having big players if maloney and barry can't cross the ball. But Villa do tend to have this problem where we never win when we need to like today against a struggling fulham. Poor performance, but expect Oneil to sort it out for next week. (Hope Gabby recovers quick)
February 03, 2008

taglor said:

@ Michael P, you are one massive hypocrite, this is a quote from you just a few posts ago "Taglor, you are one miserable soul. The poor people putting up with your bleak vision of life (or at least Aston Villa) have my deepest sympathy." Changed your tune haven't you? At least I had the foresight that Europe is a joke with this small a squad, 1 loss and you change 180 degrees! lol smilies/wink.gif
February 03, 2008

taglor said:

ps Michael P it's obvious it's you that has registered as taglor no.2 smilies/wink.gif
February 03, 2008

Tommy Ross said:

Chris Foy the referee was ridiculous. He gave virtually everything in favour of Fulham including the free kick, which led to the second goal and Curtis Davies actually got the ball for that one.
February 03, 2008

pazzler said:

im totally bummed out. 1-0 up an lookin like another positive away result. wot makes me laugh is the efect ex villa players hav on scorin in games we play. ridgewell, vassell, davis, hughes.....please lets hope baros is out injured wen we play pompey. stil we r in 6th place. as for cahill........................................
February 03, 2008

Michael P said:

No Taglor, I was underlining that - for once - you weren't talking rubbish. Try to appreciate it, I overall think the opposite. I have been openly critical from day 1 with regards to MON's feeble transfer dealings and I feared we'd get found out at some stage. And yeah, you are a miserable soul but even miserable people do get it right sometimes, it's the law of averages you muppet smilies/wink.gif
February 03, 2008

ozavfc21 said:

slip slidin away slip slidin awayayay
February 03, 2008

mylesmorris1 said:

Taglor you really are pessimistic one loss and you think its a disaster we were going to have an off day sometimes we'll still qualify for europe and more signings in the summer and they'll be the quality we need.
February 03, 2008

jinksy said:

With crap like REO-JOKER we will never qualify for Europe.

Am i the only one that can see he's the problem? Every week we play with 10 men becase of this waste of skin.
February 03, 2008

Villa_Rules said:

Expect more of the same i think injurys will mount up players will now start to get tierd

Hopeing for forth ? Im not nor would i not after the transfer window we had
February 03, 2008

Jeremiah said:

I thought we were terrible today, as bad as we've been this season. Only Maloney and Harewood seemed up for it, and Maloney's crossing/corners were bad. We just haven't had any kind of spark in the midfield whatsoever lately. I expect MON will get the ship righted for the next game.
I will say that the negativity of a lot of Villa fans is pretty disappointing. Obviously I wanted some players in at the transfer window, but clearly we didn't need to overhaul the club. We have the players to make it into Europe, it's just a matter of them doing something when they're on the pitch. If MON weren't in charge, I think Villa would be in the Championship right now, instead of competing for a Top 4 spot.
February 03, 2008

Jeremiah said:

In other news, I think Bullard is a great player when he's not injured.
February 03, 2008

Abz said:

Terrible result today, I'm pretty gutted. Especially with our solid away record, we go and lose to Fulham. And it's not just that, it's the way we played. Pretty awful to be honest! One thing you want and expect is a good performance, if we had put that in then we would have had a chance.

On the plus side, we're sixth and one defeat should not put a dampener on the season. Hopefully we'll bounce back and put in a good performance next week. It's important that we don't lose next week.

We'll just have to wait and see how the squad holds up in this half of the season with only one signing...
February 03, 2008

nan was a fan said:

I thought Reo-Corker did more than Barry today.
(He does have some minor passing issues still to be resolved.)
February 03, 2008

AV33 said:

Very poor performance, and i just knew it. Five or six main players are now either getting knocks or racking the cards up and suspensions are just around the corner.
What will we do then? dan123 and jeremiah think that MON will sort it out for next week but i'm not so sure. What about the week or two after that when half of the team will be suspended or injured ?
I fear MattAvfc and jinksy may have a pretty good arguement after today's performance and i have noticed that many of the 5 year plan fans have been a little quiet tonight (i mean no offence but it is true)
Again, we have been a little lucky with results this weekend (apart from our own)with Everton and Blackburn drawing, Arsenal stuffin Citeh but Pool won and Pompey and Spurs obviously gained another unexpected point a piece. Spurs looked unlucky and Defoe looked electric for Pompey. (although i don't like the cocky little get !)
Agent Ridgewell struck again as Nose conceded and Agent Hughes scored our goal for us today. I await Agent Cahill's report from the Bolton camp!
Onto stuff about the Villa...i really don't think Scott Carson is that good and this maybe explains MON trying to sign that american bloke.
His position for Bullards free kick today was awful and i also think he could have done more to prevent Liverpool's equalizer in the recent 2-2 draw position wise. £10 million is a lot of money innit !
Maloney was very disapointing today and the corners were awful. Harewood is proper up for it and should be given a chance now. I love the way he tries his best to get the fans behind the team.
Laursen should have buried the chance he had but overall we were s**te.
Wayne Routledge wasn't fit enough to get ten minutes or so...oh for the life of a professional footballer !
Jimmy Bullard for me today was an excellent example to any young kid of how to play football in the mdfield area. He was everywhere, winning and distributing and what a free kick (although Carson was showing him where to put it !)
Fair play to the lad for overcoming that really scary broken leg...good luck to you mate. Just a shame you sunk our high fliers today.
Why can't MON and the Villa scouts come up with great little finds like Sagna and Eduardo at Arsenal, Weater at Boro...and that's just from watching tonight's Match of the Day !!
UP THE VILLA smilies/wink.gif
February 04, 2008

Milly said:

Believe in the 5 year plan!! Yes today was dissapointing and we didnt look up for it from the first minute. I think we should question MON transfer policy during january towards the end of the season. January has passed and we need to look forward. We must all admit we have over achieved this season and a defeat to a lower placed side was innevitable as its the law of averages (Our second loss away in nearly a year??)!! Fulham were the hungrier side and are battling for survival. We just didnt play well and MON was quite open about it. Yes this was a side we should have beat on the day but even the better teams have a bad day. The likes of Arsenal and Man Utd loose games and bounce back. I mean who would have expected the following results this season:?

Middlesborough 2 Arsenal 0
Reading 2 Liverpool 0
West Ham 2 Man Utd 0

This defeat at Fulham will be the test of character not only for the team but for our manager...If we can bouce back and get back on winning ways then who will rememeber today?? I accept questions will be asked if we go on a bad run of defeats...As I said CHARACTER lets see how the boys bounce back. Alot of you have made the point about bad performances today, we just have to get behind the team. Todays support was fantastic, and with a packed crowd at Villa PARK on Saturday we will be back to our best. May the gods be with us......

February 04, 2008

kohoutek said:

One thing-When people talk about getting lucky with other teams' results, it's not really luck. It's what we saw with Villa today. It's a very competitive league. I think the announcers said Fulham had only trailed at halftime 3 times all year so far. Our main competition aren't going to win every game they should either. Shame we couldn't capitalize today, and worse we didn't get the draw, but it's going to be like this (the weekend's results) the rest of the way.
February 04, 2008

Kieran McGrath said:

atleast gabby can now have a rest, and maybe get back to his old speedy self, because the last few games he hasn't been his self and looked abit tired
February 04, 2008

Arrlui said:

We were a pub team. Ashley, I miss you.
February 04, 2008

somersetvilla said:

on that performance today,one wonders how the hell did we get in the top six..most were crap,the rest were worse,,apart from marlon,who gave it a go..god wernt fulham good..wish that guy who doesnt understand about running a football team would have purchased bullard and davies from fulham,they taught our boys a thing or six,,what lovely football those guys played..and wow did you see the strength in depth on there bench...slightly better than ours id say..who is in tne bottom three again...never mind fulham, were coming down your end of the table,after this shambles..its times like this ,that irish guy needs to make 4 or 5 changes for the newc game,,give some guys a rest..ho but he cant cause if he did walford and robertson would have to be on the bench..mike basset springs to mind every time i think of mon of the muppets..shame mon dont think like 99% of other managers do....if i were randy learner i would have just gone out shopping without tellin mon,,left him watching cash in the attic..and bought,,defoe,,benjani,,diarra,,etc,,give em 50 g a week and told em to get us into europe,,therefore saving us the trouble of waiting for mon to buy some one weve never heard of from french guyana or similar,at the end of september next year.and getting to stage one of the weird and wonderful silly 5 year plan..hands up whos looking forward to our 3 away games in march....ps any good pub team players keep an eye on the villa injuries,,if its looking dodgy down at bodymore,,take ya kits to the home games,,you never know ya mite get a game...this message is in no way only connected to the rubbish on show today,but linked to every single comment made by ones self since last summer...ive been living the nightmare...
February 04, 2008

steveAV said:

I agree with most of the comments that are very negative.

Carson????? its not the first time he has made mistakes at free kicks is it. not worth 10 million and not good enough for europe. great keeper but to many little mistakes.

Reo-Coker, such a hard worker but cant pass to save his life.

Petrov, after starting to do better, is back, back to his worst.

we raelly missed ashley today and it showed, then aggy going off. we lost all of our pace and width. I still have faith and would have been happy if someone told me a year ago we would be up here so soon. However, thats why we need to invest in quality players, not let them leave.

Lets hope the boys bounce back, i do blame the tackics to a certain degree though, barry controls the middle and we were beaten in midfield in the secound half.

chin up boys, still in 6th, for now
February 04, 2008

tonebone said:

villa were so bad!!! I have realised although Petrov is dreadful i actually blame MON for this entirely. When we have everyone fit Petrov plays right midfield (out of position) and mellberg plays right back(out of position). What premier league club does that where even with evryione fit 2 players have to play out of postion. we are a joke!!
we are going to have a horrific run till the end of the season - i am convinced. 10th place finish!! We have no players to pick - osborne and gardner came on off the bench for us today. 2 players injured so if Knight and Harewood have to start next week can u imagine how embarrassing our bench will be then. I mean we wont have a defender that we can put on the bench??? Its so unprofessional its not true!!!
If Bouma gets injured we have no left back (ohallaran is on loan and has never played prem football).
February 04, 2008

mossiewalsh said:

petrov and maloney have to go just not good enough gardener is twice the player any of them are. awful display
February 04, 2008

Pgough said:

I am disapointed like everyone else but one poor game does not make a season. Lets not panic just yet. If we beat Newcastle on saturday (12:45) at home things will look a lot rosier.
February 04, 2008

Woodinho said:

Only managed to see the 2nd half due to having to be at a christening, but my god am I glad about that!!!!

Terrible performance, shows just how bad our midfield is, I said a few weeks ago that ash young was our only creative midfielder and on this evidence I stand by it 100%. I am, however, going to dissagree with myself and say that it's not that our midfield that is "unballanced" (as I also said a few weeks ago)... it's that they are simply not good enough!

We looked lost without young! I mean it's not as if he controlls our midfield or is "the general", he takes on a few players and whips a few balls in, now I'm not slaggin Young off but it's hardly rocket science is it??? So what are the other goons excuses??? They (our other midfielders) do not have a clue and are not good enough!

The only good thing is Gabby is injured... I know that is very harsh but I think Harewood deserves a chance and the only way he was ever going to get it was through injury to Gabby as MON wont drop his faveourites - Gabby, Petrov, NRC!

I hope that the bad transfer dealings haven't cost us a place in Europe, but I fear the worst!
February 04, 2008

robvilla said:

I was at the game, and I have to say afew things were confirmed for me.

Carson - I used to play in Goal myself, and a major part of the game is Corners and free kicks. Carson NEVER seems to come for corners, and he does'nt shout/organise his defense. Its all very well being a "Shot Stopper" but its not enough..

Petrov - How many chances does this guy need ? Even when he steals the ball from people, all he does is runs towards the half way line then instead of pushing on he either panicks and passes it back or looses it. He does NOTHING else it seems ! He also looks sluggish / unfit to me.

Reo Coker - I think people are too harsh on him. He tackles VERY well indeed, a very good defensive midfielder, DID NO ONE SEE THE LIVERPOOL GAME !! All he needs is a thrusting attacking midfielder to play with.

Generally - I think we need to SHOOT more !! We got in and around the box afew times and seemed to panick, nobody had the balls to shoot.

We need a good attacking midfielder, seems that when the wings arent an option, all we do is pass the ball from left midfield back to right etc with nobody making any cutting runs or driving forwards through the middle.

However as Damian says we are still 6th,also the first away defeat in 5 months !!, and everyone has bad games. Need to lift ourselves for Newcastle though..

As long as we finish 5th or 6th thats fine, to be honest I think we would be ripped apart in the Champions league as we are not ready yet.
February 04, 2008

eoin1981 said:

A few overall comments...
To blame Martin Laursen for missing chances is stupid. He is a defender, the highest scoring defender in the league and the best player in the league at attacking corners. He is also our player of the season by about 400 country miles.
Villa, like all Martin O Neill teams play with lots of 'passion' and 'commitment'. This is obviously a good thing but unfortunately teams who are described in this manner are invariably lacking in quality, and try to make up for their lack of class with the 'passion' effect.
As shown yet again yesterday, Villa are long ball merchants. I am a big fan of carew and gabby - how can people criticise them with the quality of ball that they have to deal with....I think the villa midfield needs a complete overhall.
Ashley young was badly missed - mainly for his quality into the box. But you have to remember that he doesn't dictate a match - he relies on people giving him the ball - which leads to the question - how good would he be if he played in a team that liked to pass the ball around!!!
Maloney played quite well and looks a threat and should be our right winger for the rest of the season.
Marlon will never be the best player in the world, but nobody can question his commitment and he obviously loves playing for us. But looking at it objectively - if I played for villa I would be committed and love to play, but like marlon I would just lack the quality needed.
It all comes back to our, or rather wee Martin's, transfer dealings. Why wont he spend money on quality players??? It is not his money. Diarra is an excellent example - a real quality midfielder who is in the french team, costing less than Reo-Coker...
No more of this 'martin O Neill is doing well with a small squad' -Martin has had two years now and that small squad has only gotten smaller.
'we have been lucky with injuries and hopefully we will continue to be lucky' - what a ridiculous statement. Only a fool relies on luck and in anybodys opinion is extremely poor management.


February 04, 2008

robvilla said:

mossiewalsh - Maloney was our only attacking force, at least he was dribbling the ball, getting crosses in and having a Shot !!
February 04, 2008

AK28 said:

By all accounts Diarra was the star of the show againest the Chelsea midfield and Defoe looked a real handful all day. Hutton didn't give Ronaldo a kick all day and Chimbonda looked very solid on the other side for Spurs. And where was our wonder signing? In the stands. We should have signed 3 of these players and we would all be here this morning talking up our chances of Champions league after destroying a poor Fulham team. People can come on here and mention the 5 year plan all you want want but here is the point they are not realising. Liverpool could not possibly be as bad next year as thay are now, Spurs down to their ambitious spending will also be well ahead of us next year and the way Pompy and Man City are able to purchase quality FOREIGN players while we purchase their cast offs we will be struggling to get into the top 6 next year. 4th place was there for the taking and MON has bottled it by his stubborn nature in the transfer natue.
February 04, 2008

Pgough said:

Villa's Stephen O’Halloran last night got the FAI under 21 Player of the Season. Congratulations to Stephen who will be playing against England U21 Tuesday.
February 04, 2008

Woodinho said:

Also I totally agree that Laurson is totally void of any blame for missing any chances... he's done more than enough for us this season and we should not rely on a defender for goals... the fact that we seem to be is absolutely pathetic!
February 04, 2008

lasgidis said:

All i can say is MON is not a good manager at all, I mean carson in my view is no better than sorenson but because he(Sorenson) has p**sed mon off he cant get a game?? man management = s***e, transfer dealings = s***e, interviews = s***e, our team's chances(aka our hopes and dreams) = s***e, suffice to say that i am not a fan at all, MON OUT NOW!!!!
February 04, 2008

AV4EVER said:

Are villa a one trick Pony? this i mean, can villa only win with Ashley Young in the side!! For me Villa have looked in a false position for a while now, not that impressed with Agbon, Petrov, Reo Coker or Scott Carson.
Please move Melberg back into the middle with Laursen, cant believe how many easy goals we are shipping, still can not believe MON didnt sign a quality right back (luke young was brillant for middlesborough against newcastle).
Dont think Carson is worth 10mill or Davies coming to mention it. If Villa could have got 15 mill for Agbon i would have snapped their hands off, but with this one i hope he proves me wrong.
Fulham are an average team that made us look less than average, villa are looking slim pickings right now.
February 04, 2008

VillaPD said:

i really hope im wrong, but im not overly optimistic about signing the 3,4,5 quality players we need in the summer. When lerner and oneill came in we were told we would sign world class players. Summer 1=petrov, hardly world class. January 1= maloney, young, carew, no complaints there. Summer 2 (again told we would be signing quality)=NRC, Knight(mare), carson (loan), davies(loan). again, hardly anything to get excited about. January 2= again, told we would be strengthening and getting the RB we couldnt get in the summer who would be available in January). we get routledge. hardly amazing. could be shrewd, but not a big player. also sell cahill, who if any1 saw had a blinder against reading on his debut. put davies and kinghtmare to shame. there seems to be a bit of a pattern, so i find it hard to console myself that all will be fine in the summer. we said that last summer, then again this jan, now this summer.
February 04, 2008

Damian said:

for as many people that say to me gabby is the next big thing i hear/see as many people saying that they're not that impressed with him. what i like about him is if you give him a clear cut opportunity, hi mostly takes it - thats the job of a striker and thats what he does ... i persaonlly think we need to do an evertona nd playe 4-5-1 - because we dont have the quality like arsenal, man utd or chelsea to player 4-4-2 and need to play to our strengths ..

anyway, are we a one trick pont club - simple answer is no. give shaun maloney 5 games and he'll be creating chances like webcam ashley does - but asking someone to come in from the cold like that is very difficult

there are qustions marks hanging over carson - he doesn't seem to come for corners or crosses unless they're on his doorstep and he makes the odd mistake but we've only conceded 33 goals. actually that is quite a lot when you look around at other teams. west ham have conceded less - lets go get their keeper!

anyway - i think there has been a lot of reaction to this defeat because this was supposed to be the beginning of the easy run in and we slipped up - everyone is allowed to make the odd mistake, we've done it yesterday, lets kick on and hope it doesn't happen aain
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Woodinho said:

I agree with most of that, apart from the Carson bit, I'm actually quite a Scott Carson fan... but my Sunday league days were always plagued with calls of dodgy keeper anyway so who am I to judge!

I cant help thinking we seem to be one very small step away from something really big down at the Villa Park... but on the other hand we are one minor blip away from a big f*ck up! Yes we are heading in the right direction but we are so close to losing all this good progress by missing oppurtunities (fulham loss, lack of squad building etc...).

It's a very fine line we are treding and I think it's putting us all on edge!
February 04, 2008

AK28 said:

I agree with you about Gabby. He does uaually take his chances when he gets them but with the crap Midfield that he has behind him he just ends up cahsing long balls into the corners and he is not going to score from there.
February 04, 2008

robvilla said:

Woodhino has hit the nail on the head, it does seem like a very fine line villa are treading, instead of REALLY going for it like Portsmouth Spurs seem to be doing, but then you could argue that we are still above those teams and maybe just had a bad game. smilies/cry.gif

But there are glaringly obvious things that need to be done with the team.
February 04, 2008

Arrlui said:

I barely celebrated when we scored. All we were doing was pinging long balls into the box or dribbling to about 18 yards out and then giving it back to Fulham. Ashley might not have that 4th dimension about his game but what he does, he does effectively.

Yes, it was one set-back, but how many will it take before we're falling down the league again? We lack strength in depth. We lack the quality needed to maintain a Euro push. I think we'd get torn apart in UEFA, never mind the CL, if our inconsistency is anything to go by (like the irony?).

We're dependant on a few players, the squad has two left feet and can't get a date to the prom because of it's flaccid approach to walkover games like Fulham. Man of the Match - Roy Hodgson.
February 04, 2008

steve wood said:

we have been sold down the river by the club.
o'niel has'nt got a clue in the transfer market, look at the crap he's signed so far, take ash out of the equation, the rest are average to crap. randy lerner needs to be looked at also, he should be putting pressure on the manager to sign some quality players,(although i did read an article where he said he wanted mon to be more aggressive in the transfer market). he should see a chance of re-couping some of his investment by qualifying for the champs league 4th spot, it's there for the taking, or it would have been if 'haplees harry' would have done something about it, but they've both bottled it.

on petrov, it's obvious he has'nt the quality to hack it in the prem, but for christ's sake, he's no worse than reo 'cokehead', at least petrov gets a sweat-on, this bloke is crap, and our deluded manager was promoting him for an england call-up last week, what a joke!!!
mon is turning our great club into another leicester city.....hard working tean full of average joes, capable of the occasional cup run, if we are lucky.

on defoe, i can't believe that pompy have'nt paid for him, he's on loan, why the f**k could'nt we get him on loan, i'll tell you why....MON can't handle big name players and all that comes with them, he's never signed one in his life
i see us finishing 8th or 9th, if we don't get any more injuries, which would be about right for us, i think. we have over achieved this season as much as we under achieved last season. the problem is, i dont see it changing too much under mon.
yesterday highlited mon's taticle awareness, again.
they had 1 up front and 5 in midfield and bossed us, so why didn't he try 3 - 5 - 2 which is more offensive than the s**te he played, we could have won midfield and still kept 2 forwards.
instead we had to endure his same old long ball tactic, oh yes and his only substitution of bouma coming off yet again, same old s**t from the same old s**t manager, he might be able to get a little extra from some players, which is great, but you need to out-wit your opposition from time to time, one's thing for sure, we don't take much working out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

message to randy, oust mon and get jose befor it's too late.



February 04, 2008

Woodinho said:

Bit harsh Steve, I wasn't happy yesterday either, with petrov & cokehead or with the transfer dealings prior... but i still dont reckon we need a change in manager, lets be realistic, jose had money to burn and bought the title, and even with money (which apparently grows on trees in Abramovics' back garden) at his disposal he couldn't keep it up!

Dont get me wrong I'm not sticking up for MON as he really has p**sed me off with his lack of buying and crap tactics due to lack of players - but he still has time left to turn it around... and we are still doing decent enough in the table!

I can see Newcastle being a real tough game and will be a good test for us to judge the rest of our season on, I think if we play as s**t as we did yesterday then I can see heads dropping and it being the start of our annual slump!
February 04, 2008

Aston Villa Credit Card said:

We miss Ashley Young badly and it's unfortunate to lose Agbonlahor halfway through the game.

Too bad Laursen missing a clear cut chance because the ball somehow fell on his foot instead of his golden head.

I was surprised when O'neil bring in Harewood, he is simply not good enough for EPL, Championship maybe.

Hopefull this is a one off "bad luck".

But I guess we take comfort knowing our next opponent is Newcastle. One point should not be an issue, but 3 points is what we all hope for.
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Woodinho said:

So thats where the Aston Villa Credit Card went... you'd better hand yourself in before the summer mate or we'll have no new players again!!!!
February 04, 2008

Az_ said:

I don't think MON needs time to turn things around. I think he's done that already, he just needs to retain it till the end of the season which could prove to be difficult. Fulham hopefully was a one off, even the big boys slip up time to time, but it would be very typical of us to have a bad spell now and slip down the table.

Still feel we concede too many. We have conceded more than anyone else in the top half of the table. I don't think this is down to our defence but more due to our passing. We always seem to have less percentage of play than our opponants and inevitably this leads to conceding goals. When was our last clean sheet?
February 04, 2008

AK28 said:

Az_ i think it was away to blackburn in Nov. The fact is neither of our full backs can pass or look comfortable on the ball. The same can be said for most of our midfield as well. Does anyone know what has happened to Saliou? Last i heard he was playing very well for the reserves and he still cannot make the beanch ahead of Osbourne.
February 04, 2008