Tuesday, 29 January 08, 12:12 PM
There is a lot of talk about which players are coming and a lot of the names getting mentioned are not the quality that Martin O'Neill has talked about, so I'm setting myself up for a surprise or two.
I'm expecting it mostly because this is how Martin O'Neill conducts his transfer dealings and despite the hope that he'll sign a player or two early on in January - we really should know better.
Despite us playing over 10% of the season in January with the small squad Martin O'Neill talks about we've actually done quite well and as I said yesterday - we'd all have been happy with where we are right now, if it was offered to us at the start of the season.
I don't think we were in for Woodgate, as some of the papers are saying and I don't think we're in for Wayne Routledge or Nedum Onuoha, despite all the paper talk. I think we may have a new defender and possibly a midfielder or striker and while the names might not have been mentioned I think they'll be the right type of players to move us forward.
Why do I think this? Well, mostly through hope and optimism but also because January wasn't a surprise to Martin O'Neill; he's known since September where he needs to strengthen and he would have done his homework and had his targets lined up.
So, I'm preparing myself for some news tomorrow or Thursday and while it may only be one or two players I think, if they do strengthen the squad, then we've got to be happy - because right now, it's all about strengthening.
Adding real quality is difficult in January and while it may happen, if enough money is offered, I'm expecting that to happen in the summer.
The names may be a surprise, the numbers might not be what we want but it is happening. There is a wonderful opportunity now to compete for European football next season and it has to be grasped with both hands and most importantly, Martin O'Neill knows this.
Comments (46)
We've been led down the garden path when it comes to transfers, it seems we dont have the big money to compete with the likes of Newcastle, Mancity, Spurs and Westham, we were led to believe last summer that we would get quality top class signings and we know what we got!! january is very disappointing upto now, i dont expect anything exciting and the summer will be the same as last, makr my words, but as long as we have sell out crowds at VP thats all the board care about, money suckers from our poor fans!!
We've been led down the garden path when it comes to transfers, it seems we dont have the big money to compete with the likes of Newcastle, Mancity, Spurs and Westham, we were led to believe last summer that we would get quality top class signings and we know what we got!! january is very disappointing upto now, i dont expect anything exciting and the summer will be the same as last, makr my words, but as long as we have sell out crowds at VP thats all the board care about, money suckers from our poor fans!!
We've already signed the most crucial player we needed in this transfer window - Martin Laurson. I guess anything else will be fortune. I get the feeling MON's not getting too far with other options at the moment; lots of striker talk is all well and good but we need a solid right back and a better quality holding midfielder. Another winger would be nice - Gabby is visibly knackered and needs a rest, he hasn't had a good game in the last four or so matches, but who can blame him. I'm getting the same vibe in this window as I did the last one, more going out than coming in. :'(
"Adding real quality is difficult in January "
Carew, Young, and Maloney spring to mind last year ?
it is a load of bollocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!wanker
We have not been led up the garden path... Man City, Newcastle, West Ham & Spurs have all panic bought players... look where its got Newcastle, West Ham & Spurs - BOTTOM HALF! Be patient and always remain positive! UTV IN MON I TRUST!
thanks for those comments christoff
I hope that isn't MON logged onto Christoff's computer.
So the mighty West Ham, Spurs, Man City and Newcastle have signed who this Jan? Every one assumes we're the only club taking our time. Spurs have finally signed a CB even though they've needed one for about ten years! Man City have signed one player on loan. Newcastle and West Ham? Nowt. I keep hear we're being left behind, but by who? The only big business done this window has been by Chelsea (because they're falling behind) and the bottom clubs (who are panicking).
That's more like it Damian. I much prefer your posts when they're positive :)
VijayD, cast your mind back to last January. What a steal and exceptionally good buy Ashley Young has turned out to be, eh?
MON will only buy the right players if they are available. He will not buy if they won't improve the squad. He has said this repeatedly. He will not buy overpriced players with massive egos either. It's as simple as that.
I for one, do not want us splashing cash needlessly and am perfectly happy with the way things are going.
Some people are just never happy.
Oh, BTW
Good post Snapster, I totally agree.
Im just past caring now. After spending the last 28 days obsessively refreshing news now and trawling websites for news im going cold turkey to get off my addiction!
Roll on Feb 1st i want my life back! :'(
I can't belive after all of the rubbish that we have seen in recent years, you so called villa fans can't be a little patient with the transfer situation, we all know we need to strengthen and i'm pretty sure O'Neill knows as well. Snapster was right, O'Neill only buys players who want to play for villa, work hard and learn. I can't think of one player O'Neill has signed who has not performed or who is not starting to re-discover their form. Lets wait for the summer and anything by thursday will be a bonus. The money is there, we have the manager, we have the chairman and only glory is in the future, but it will take longer than any true villa supporter would like, but as a villa supporter you have to realise this. Oh yes and come on Laurson.
1 Player I know will sign before Jan 31st midnight will be: Kevin Doyle I would expect a winger as well
In Martin Oneil we trust!! Here here GreenVillian couldnt agree more
I am shocked, but have now accepted we are not going to sign anyone. It is going to cost us a place in Europe come the end of the season. The Blackburn game highlighted this for me. Gabby was shattered, Barry didnâ€t look fully fit, nor did young(especially when limping for the last 15mins), Petrov or Carew. These players need a rest every now and again but we donâ€t have that option to a severe lack of depth. I am certain we have had to play players this season when only say 80% fit. We have been so lucky with injuries and suspensions. To put us in that position when we rely on luck once is unprofessional, twice will be plain stupidity. By his own admission MON has said if we had had injuries that other teams had we would not have been able to cope. So why risk it twice??? All of you who are saying donâ€t worry, he knows what he is doing, look where we are in the league etc ---- u wouldnâ€t be saying anything of the sort if we had had injuries and â€hadnâ€t been able to cope†as he put it. You would all be furious – so why is he putting the club in a position where that could happen???
tonebone - at the end of August loads of people where moaning at the lack of activity and said we'd struggle. It's all well and good saying if we were in a different position we wouldn't be saying this and that, but we're not. We are where we are and still you're moaning.
If you think MON is so dumb that he doesn't know he needs to get some players in your slightly puddled. MON clearly has a way of doing his business and getting the right people in. We may not like it, it may not make the transfer window particularly exciting but it's working, and better than a lot of other teams at the moment.
Just chill out and enjoy it a bit.
should be a transfer 24 hours other than a whole month
yes but it wouldnt be working if we had had injuries would it?? Its great that it is but that doesnt stop it being stupid taking the risk.
Of course i am happy with where we are, but we arent going to have as good a run with injuries as we have had so far. If we dont sign anyone we are going to have to rely on a huge chunk of luck to get into europe.
tonebone - If I gave you £20 you'd want £50. If I gave you £50 you'd EXPECT £100. I can't win. Neither can MON
jibba jabba,
You dont get given anything in the prem, you have to earn it. We are in a european place and i am ecstatic with how the season is going, but if we get injuries we wont finish in a european place, unless we bloster the squad now.
I stand by what i say i think its stupid to put us in that situation - it was stupid in the summer but we have thankfully got away with it and it would be even more stupid now based on our league postion!
I can't believe I was ever worried about MON and villa, after reading the insightful comments on here my opinion has changed 180 degrees, I now no longer want any other signings ever because I am told MON is a genius with who we have signed and I would rather the club save money than buy a star player needed or not just to give the fans a little excitement, money in the bank is far more enjoyable. I also stupidly looked forward to european football but apparently I am wrong to want that as we may not do so well and it is far better to not even try and maybe go out than actually enter it. Now I can sit back and laugh at all these silly clubs signing players for money like, Torres, Santa Cruz, Tevez, Anelka, haha suckers, they may win you things and provide excitement but we have money in the bank!
We all did exactly the same last year when it looked like no-one was coming at all. It was only on the last day of the Window we made any signings. By look of Defoes body language against Arsenal he's leaving, Crouchie still may come back, Wright Phillips is a no no now as he's gatting a game but i'd rather be linked to these kind of players than bog standard Championship players. He's just keeping us waiting to the end but i have faith... as someone once said "If you build it they will come"..!!
We have over achieved so far this season, but we all need to look at this in perspective. Martin came in with a 5 year plan, and I'm 100% confident that within those 5 years we will be back in europe, definatly UEFA cup possible Champs league. Keep faith that he will as always see us rite. Come on Villa, Come on Martin!! Everyone remain possitve even if we buy no-one in Jan...
The penny has dropped people! We wont spend for the sake of it, simple. MON knows we need numbers but not djemba-djemba's and it's pointless even talking this crap half the time, be patient and im sure we will be do well. Even if we dont buy anybody this window it wouldn't bother, were on the up! IN MON WE TRUST!!!! UTV
im right behind mon ive not felt this much optimism at the villa for a very long time. he knows what hes doing and has brought some quality players in, and i hope one or two more before the end of this window, i myself wouldnt sell cahill but maybe he wants to go, if so then youve got to let him, and christoff whats the point in that man?.
Taglor, u sad little bluenose. Seriously do u ever cum on here to say something positive!! Just look at the table sunshine. People like ashley young an co have got us there, so y sign random players to build what would ultimately turn out to be another flop story for the villa. Get the right players, get the right team with the right manager. We're doin that (in case u didn't notice).
UTV!!!! Go back to small heath u tosser!!!!!!! ;D
What's this about "we'll miss out on Europe if we have injuries"? We may have a small squad, but it's still a squad. As I posted elsewhere: we have squad players for most positions; Sali, Maloney, Taylor, Osborne, Harewood... granted that defence is one worrying area. We will be ok, even with suspensions and injuries.
taglor, how often do you need to be told it's all about availability. MON keeps saying it, so why don't you listen?
Do you seriously think MON isn't trying?
Top players want to go to top clubs and we're not quite there yet.
Top clubs don't want to sell their better players and if they do, they ask stupid money. Despite RLs wealth, I'm sure he doesn't want to spend say, £20mill on a player who's only worth £10mill. I bet MON doesn't either. As has been said, loads of clubs have spent big money and it's been futile.
I'll be very suprised if we get no-one in and if we do get players, I'm sure MON will think they will improve the squad.
After all, he's the only person who counts, regardless of what we think.
I don't expect to see anything significant maybe the players that will come in are more for the bench and reserve team should people get injured.
Europe spot end of the season and in the summer I think we will see some quality signings. Maybe an increase in season ticket price too ohhh I'm so cynical! :D
As a follow-on, MON is quoted in the Mail as saying he'd buy a "superstar" for megabucks, if he thought he was the right man.
So it's not that he doesn't want to, at all.
we all want signings and im quite positive we will get them however if we dont we dont
but i tell you what
"Were all going on a European Tour" come next season
Whether its Champs League or Uefa cup
Keep the faith!!!
UTV
If I was MON and I had to listen to some of this crap, or read it, I'd be tempted to squander the family inheritance on all sorts of short term distractions. Then when quizzed next year about European football and the need for further signings, I'd show my empty pockets and say 'whoops, spent the lot sorry'.
All I can say is I'm glad he's in charge of spending and not some of the clowns posting on this site. I'm guessing some of you still spend your week's pocket money on Day 1.
cant c us signing any1 2b honest but i pray im wrong..if we dont sign a right back right winger nd striker than we'll struggle rest of season.every1 can see the players playin every wk r gettin tired..need fresh blood badly!!mon is prob wrkin lik hell 2 get players in but i hope he didnt leave it 2 late
im stil hopin and waitin
martin oneill is the new jack bauer, he does all his work in 24 hours
i am a poet and i didnt know it
"You dont get given anything in the prem, you have to earn it. We are in a european place and i am ecstatic with how the season is going, but if we get injuries we wont finish in a european place, unless we bloster the squad now.
I stand by what i say i think its stupid to put us in that situation - it was stupid in the summer but we have thankfully got away with it and it would be even more stupid now based on our league postion!"
Tonebone, you're absolutely spot on mate. I'm just surprised that an idiot like MON didn't realise earlier that he'd need to buy more players. What a fool he must be!
So, let's send him down to the player supermarket to have a wander round and choose a few gems. I mean, it's not like there will be a queue of other people wanting to buy the best players too, is it?
Damn, I should be a manager too.
I'm seriously beginning to think we need Cahill's cash to buy players. And maintain that doing all the dealing at the last second and piss*ng about talking in code to the press and leaving the fans wondering what the hell is going on is not cool. Not one bit. If we sign Doyle and the likes I will be really pissed off. In Jim Royle's words, ambition my arse.
does anyone really think MON is not trying to buy players at this moment. i bet you he is even more frustrated than us fans, if players are not available they are just not available unless you throw money at them at that is not MON'S style.
i have just watched small heath and sunderland on the box. roy keane spent large in the summer, is there anyone in their team you would want as a swop for one of our players?
Quality players will come, maybe not this month but in the summer i am sure the fun will begin.
have patience. just think what it must be like being a bluenose.
utv
I keep reading how we have the smallest squad in the Premier League. Can someone please explain why our transfer window score reads 0 - 5 with one day to play?
anyone doubting MON can go back to Small Heath where you belong, what happened last January? Has anyone got a problem with Ashley Young, Shaun Maloney or John Carew? Perhaps you'd rather have Baros back running with his head down denting the back of the stands, have some f* patience, there are 48 hours left and I am damn sure he's pulling all the stops out to get quality in. I tell you something else come next Friday there will be more England Villa players in that ENgland side than most of you have seen in many years… You just can't please some people
read mon on yahoo sport..its groundhog day...winging on about small squads and not panic buying...salifou who springs to mind now that was a great signing...were in with a shout of europe..lets make sure we have the back up in quality...after all he failed in the summer to get enough quality in,,and us muppets have all been thinking hes got some sorted for jan,,,wrong hes still winging about our small squad....sometimes i wonder if hes all there..yes were doing better than expected,,punching above our weight with our small squad...but come on mon,be serious it aint your own money you know,,its ok dont be tight fisted,,speculate and you never know you mite do it...plus dont know how true it was but....woodgate come on be serious,,what type of buy would that have been,,i reckon the physio is bored and mon thought hed give him a full time job....and why did we not push spurs for alan hutton surley one for the future,,never mind,we mite get there cast off in chimbonda if were not out bid by wigan...
come on mon suprise us all....me thinks not...
Jimmy Villain..have some f* patience? I've been waiting for a f* right back for 2 years, that's 3 full transfer windows and 29 days of this one for anything to happen! If we blow qualification for Europe due to something like this it will be idiotic.
"we're all going on a EUROPEAN TOUR a EUROPEAN TOUR a EUROPEAN TOUR..."
Michael P watch the news today, mark my words the right back is coming as are other players… MON knows what he's doing, why would he let Cahill go otherwise? That would be totally retarded… He knows as well as anyone how the side have over achieved this season, let's not start acting like geordies, we are a top 6 side this season with the squad we have and at the start of the season any Villa would have taken that.