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These 2 would be great for us, but i think we need a striker with some presence, maybe that will come in the summer, i think MON knows we need 2 strikers but perhaps cant get both now, if we sign Chimbonda and Defoe this window id be very happy with our business this window. |
davida
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Chimbonda would be a huge improvement on Mellberg. Same with Defoe and Luke Moore. Massive improvements. My only concerns - Chimbonda's attitude stinks and could unsettle the dressing room? Defoe loves the bright lights of London too much for a move to Aston. |
Beast
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Alan Campbell has been back on Sky Sports and looks good to me: "ASTON VILLA NEWS : I am reliably informed that the deal for Giles Barnes is nearing it's completion, however, Boss Martin O'Neill has cooled his interest in Kevin Doyle as he has been encouraged by Spurs boss Juande Ramos to make a bid for Jermain Defoe (his number 1 long term target). O'Neill will then move to complete a deal for another of his long term targets... Jose Boswingwa. Further January targets include Lassana Diarra of Arsenal and John Arne Riise of Liverpool. I will keep you posted with developments at Villa Park throughout January !!!" |
london villan
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yeah id be happy with both of them, but id also like to see us go out and but a striker who can give us a different option, ie gudjohnson/r kean. that would give us a nice mix of pace power and guile, which is neede at times in the prem. |
Michael P
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I've just read on an Italian website that Villa have made a joint 20m (euros, that is) bid for Chimbonda and Defoe.. |
Chrisodon
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I'd like these two then we could try and sort out the right wing and maybe another LB (Taylor) as back up to bouma. |
yeh
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chrisodon .. might be harsh to say but we dont need 'back up to bouma' we need a better lb and let bouma be the back up !! |
Luke Marson
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Chimbonda's agent has just said "I think Villa are a big club. Pascal is looking to leave Spurs." If that doesn't say come and get me what does? |
Ian
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Sign him up! Did I mention that we haven't got a right back before? www.claretandbluewedding.com |
northstandholtender
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Yo Beast, just go on newsnow, its all over it. Chimponda well up for villa move. Up The Villa! P.S Me missus just rang and said on the radio it said Villa had bid Ten Mill for Defoe? Can anyone confirm this?! (its not on Sky) |
Villain from Texas
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The article from the Italian website also says: "The former Celtic boss . . . ruled out a move for Newcastle United forward Obafemi Maritns." |
Abz
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Hmm..not too sure about Chimbonda. His attitude isn't the greatest, but then again, neither was Carew's when he joined. He had a bit if a reputation but seems to be at home now. Maybe M.O.N can get the best out of Chimbonda as well. He's a good player though. So many rumours! We shall see what happens.... |
Topsy
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I'd take them both. Defoe will score goals and I think MON will be able to handle Chimponda's temprament. Can I throw another name in as Newcastle have gone into meltdown. We need to save Milner,then our midfield 4 will be complete. He was immense when he was on loan a couple of seasons ago and almost signed after. |
Eli
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topsy you may very well get all you wanted mate. word on the street(interweb) is that villa plan to make a 15million quid bid for chimbonda and defoe...and well Milner realises the error of his ways when he did not sign with us on a permanent basis. |
Eli
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ok so the toons and spurs are throwing in 5 million pound offers for diarra. why doesn't mon come in with a 6er and call it a night??? |
el caputan
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i dont like defoes attitude just that stupid stripe on his head shows how much of a d**k he is, chimbonda is a quality player and would like to see him at villa although id prefer ryan taylor from wigan fantastic crosser of the ball and goo defensively can take a good free kick too. james milner should defo do a runner from newcastle dont think they will let him go tho!!!! |
Az_
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Okay, let's not sign Defoe because of his haircut. All in favour... Defoe and Chimbonda would make great additions to the side. I'd prefer Diaby if we are talking about young gunners, not much chance of that though. |
randygabs
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NEWS CHIMBONDA SAID HE WANTS TO COME TO VILLA, I DNT WANT IM TO COME HE AINT GOOD ENOUGH, BUT MON MAY BE ABLE TO GET THE VERY BEST OUT OF HIM, MON SHUD SIGN, DEFOE, DIARRA, AND A 15 MILLION POUND STRIKER |
Villa_PeteD
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a january transfer window in which we get defoe, chimbonda, diarra and milner wouldnt be a bad bit of business. Would surely cement our push for europe and would cost around £25m, not bad for 4 quality players who are relatively young (and in the case of diarra and milner likely to increase in value) |
sam_villa 1
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why the f*ck are we buying reject players from clubs that are lower than us in the leauge. can you see us getting into europe with f*cking Pascal Chimbonda a right back and zat f*cking knight at centre back. they are both sh*t players and so is harewood. our two best centre backs look like they are going to leave, Gary Cahill and Martin Laursen and our next best defender hardly plays, Curtis davies. loads of people are saying we need a creative midfielder, we have one, SHAUN MALONEY. WTF is martin o' neil playing at. if you ask me he hasn't got a clue. and people who don't agree with me you have to admit pascal Chimbonda is a bit of a come down from Jose Boswinga. Boswinga is the type of players we should be going for. players that play for big clubs and cost mega-bucks not f*cking pascal Chimbonda |
Az_
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Bahaha. Have to agree about Maloney, he's impressed me everytime he's came on, what's the deal there? |
sam_villa 1
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some people have said martin o' neil likes to keep his transfer targets close to chest. yeh he does. so f*cking close he forgets thier there. |
Villa_PeteD
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just because a team is below us doesnt mean we shouldnt be signing their players. If that was the case your ruling out robbie keane too, a player most people would happily accept at villa. and you say our 3rd best CB is davies and but correct me if im mistaken but he was bought from west brom, a team i believe are below us. chimbonda is a quality player, as is defoe. had we been after them in the summer (when everyone expected tottenham to push the top 4) no one would have complained. the fact tottenham are suffering doesnt make these two bad players in the space of a few months. and lets face it, for someone that hasnt got a clue and forgets his transfers hes not doing too bad is he. 7th in the league. |
sam_villa 1
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no if you read what i said i said why are we buying REJECT players from teams below us. davies what not a reject. robbie keane is not a reject. marlon harewood is a reject. im not slating o neil for what he has done with the team hes got and not ALL of his transfers. ashley young was a great transfer and so was carew and maloney. but i think he sometimes panic buys wich is quite common in the january window like with zat knight and marlon harewood. but come on pascal chimbonda is not the sort of player we need. he is nowhere near as good as boswinga who is the quality we should be getting. |
on the pee my lord, on the pee
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sam_villa1 ... be realistic mate, he is playing champions league football with porto and has a £22million price tag! We cant attract that YEt, u need to go up in stages and Chimbonda is alot better than what we have got. So stop throwin ur dummy out the pram and use ur brain, £22million for a player who is in the champions league ... highly unlikely!!!! |
sam_villa 1
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i know boswinga is a bit much but he is the type of quality we need. so what if hes playing champions league football, thats what were aiming for and im not being unrealistic because he actually is a transfer target. i agree chimbonda is better than the right back we have. but only because we dont have one. i also know we need to go up in steps. but i think we can go in bigger steps than chimbonda. maybe not boswinga but a bit better than chimbonda. |
Villa_PeteD
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dont get me wrong, im not sticking up for zat knght and marlon harewood. i wouldnt know how to defend them. and yes, harewood is the prime example of a panic buy and the sooner we ship him out the better. zat knight isnt great either, but if we have davies, laursen and cahill in front of him next season i wouldnt mind. but i do think chimbonda would be a god buy. hes a natural RB for a start! but i also rate him as a player. then once we start challenging we can improve. but is boswinga going to leave a club in champs. league to come here when the closest thing to europe we could offer him is the holiday channel? |
sam_villa 1
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thats fair enough. people have opinions. in your opinion pascal chimbonda is a good player and in my opinion hes sh*t. and if we buy a good right back and maybe a good right midfielder we wont need a the holiday channel because we will be there. because we have a great team but i just dont feel chimbonda is what we are looking for. there is better out there that would be willing to come to villa for a fair price. |
Villa_PeteD
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we could just sod buying a RB, mellberg wants to go so tell him hes playing RB till he leaves, then the money for chimbonda can be put towards bentley. with him and defoe added for around £20-25m wed definately get into europe. then go in for boswinga in the summer when we can offer him european football, and with a couple of other signings a crack at champions league next season would be on the cards. that i believe would definately be the best scenario. |
on the pee my lord, on the pee
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Pete one bad thing with that .... MELLBERG CANT PLAY RIGHT BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Villa_PeteD
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id be happy to keep him there if it meant getting bentley now and bosingwa in the summer. imagine that down the right side |
sam_villa 1
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i think we should buy Justin Hoyte, bosingwa or diarra. i dont think that its been to unrealistic because we are still been linked with them all. i have to say though that mellberg cant stay at rb after seeing his terrible cross against spurs that nearly hit the corner flag. |
taglor
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on the pee and dazz, why don't you get your own ideas and comments rather than just slagging off everyone elses, you are just the type of sheep that would support and believe villa were doing good if they told you they were fielding a team of harewoods, just so you would think that makes you a bigger fan, |
on the pee my lord, on the pee
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Taglor i go home and away every single week ... you are probably an arm chair fan who just moans all the time and is never happy, because u dont actually go and know what its like to support the team properly!!! U keep havin a moan though old man, if it makes u feel good! We'll stay positive and stick with our team through thick and thin and not get on their backs at the first chance. Maybe u should go and support Newcastle all their fans are just like u, u wud fit in nicely!!! |
Villa_PeteD
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granted diarra has played RB, but hes naturally a CB, why buy him to play RB. and wenger has come out and said there is 'no chance' of us getting hoyte |
on the pee my lord, on the pee
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Pete ... Diarra is a central midfielder, dont think he has ever played centre back in his life? |
on the pee my lord, on the pee
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fair play pete.... yeah i agree, cant buy Diarra to play him RB! |
sam_villa 1
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i still reckon we could get hoyte. wenger has probably said that so we make a higher bid for him. maybe |
on the pee my lord, on the pee
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I think Hoyte is alright ... he is definatelyx10000 not better than Chimbonda! |
Chrisodon
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Meh transfer windows bug me, you wake up thinking we could actually sign someone today then you read rumors/speculation on the web and in the papers. Then POOF! sweet sod all but tomorrow is another day for it all to happen again! So bloody annoying. |
Villa_Rules
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I think he would be a good signing lets just hope M.O.N is intrested in him because we defnitly need a right back now surely martin aint guna wait til the end of the season. Still tho i dont think we will see any signings not til about 11.59 deadline night  |
Northern Villan
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Personally I think Chimbonda would be a good signing, the likes of Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal have all had a gud look at him. He's in his mid 20's, we know he can hack the premiership, which is unproven in the likes of Hutton, Bosingwa, Miguel and Nelson and he will come at a decent price. Look at what he can bring a bit of stability and adaptability as he can play anywhere along the back 4 comfortably. Defoe aswell would be a good signing, as I have said if Utd and Chelsea have bid or considered bids, for these two they obviously feel that they were going to add something to there squad so why won't they for us? I think you fans who think we are going to go out and sign the likes of Messi, Ronaldinho and Kaka need to open you f*ckin eyes, because at this moment in time we have got nothing to offer them, why don't you let MON do his business see how he has done by the end of may and them judge him, f*kin idiots! UTV! |
Michael P
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Beast: sorry it took me ages to get back bud, I was at work  The website is www.tuttomercatoweb.com. More links about the Villa I just found mention that Mellberg and Laursen were spotted Tuesday night in a restaurant in Milan (the "Pontaccio", to be precise). The article claims that Mellberg will be a Juventus player by June. I can only assume Laursen was there due to his Italian knowledge and past experiences at Verona and AC Milan, probably to act as an advisor/translator. Anyway, this website claims the Mellberg-Juve deal is virtually done. Other rumors of the past few days from the same website claim that MON is interested in Leicester's Richard Stearman, 20 year old with 86 appearances and 6 goals to his name for the Foxes. The player can be used both in midfield and defence and his price tag would be around the 2m Euros, so I guess around £1.7m. They also claim Derby are after Sorensen and that MON (and Mark Highes at Blackburn) have allegedly been following a full back currently at Le Mans, Jean Calve (24). So, overall, we are linked with either kids (again) or unknown quantities. Now, if Wenger was the Villa manager I'd be safe in the knowledge those unknown quantities are probably going to turn into top players (see Eboue from Beveren in Belgium a couple of seasons ago or more recently Sagna from Auxerre, Diaby etc.), but as we are talking about MON, who knows. Witness the Togo Zidane still "adapting" in the reserves, whatever his name his. Mustapha Salifou, that's the 1. As always, time will tell. 21 days to go. |
Michael P
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By the way, if I read again that Villa cannot go for certain players because they are not in Europe, are not a big club etc. I'm gonna scream like a demented cross between Britney effin Spears and Beehive Bird Amy Whinehouse. It's all b*llocks and - with such an attitude from a large section of the fans - it is no wonder not many at this football club feel the need or the pressure to speed up this insane 5 year plan. We will all be dead by the time Villa are finally ready to challenge for anything at all, at this rate. Jesus Christ. |
Villa_PeteD
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well said northern villa. weve gota be realistic. not point going for players we arent gona get. lets just get behind oneill. people criticise his signings (including me in terms of harewood and knight) but for someone that has supposedly made a lot of suspect signings, were not doing too bad. finished 16th with oleary, oneill now has us 7th. if thats what dodgy signings does ill have a few more please. |
Damian
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well said again that man (Michael P) european football isn't an issue ... it's all about selling the club and the money - you've got to be able to sell it but you've also got to be able to pay the money and the salary ... it's all about 'where do we really want to be in another 3 seasons' |
DSB1
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Well said northern villain. These idiots who seem to think we will attract world class players at this time need to get a reality check. Whilst we have made massive improvements you have to build slowly. The quality of player we have signed has generally been an improvement,harewood and knight apart but I would be very pleaseed to get chimbonda and defoe. I would then add bentley and a quality left back and we would have a team to get us into europe. Then in the summer we could look at a couple of world class players to add to an improving squad. |
Villa_PeteD
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well come on MichaelP. this attitude u refer to is called being realistic. there are players that simply wont come to villa, no matter how much we want them. not at the moment anyway |
taglor
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Thats brilliant Villa_PeteD, why aim for good players lets just all be happy paying millionaires to not use the money wisely. My spurs mate just called me, absolutely p**sing himself that we may get 2 of their rejects, I'm sick of it, if MON buys some more crap then Iv'e had it with either him or the Billionaire Board, cause somethin ain't right. If Randy is a businessman surely other investments he has made he realises that you have to speculate to accumulate or maybe he doesn't know football as well as, on the pee, the John Motson of comments |
taglor
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Also at on the pee, I live on the coast and you expect me to go to all games and pay them to watch players that don't excite. And yes I'm sure you go to every single home and away game and have done forever and ever in your dreams. oh I just remembered I have been to every game they ever played and I also train with the team and I stay over at each of their houses every weekend and share a percentage of a wine bar with MON and part own an NHL team with Randy. blah blah blah |
DSB1
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Lets hope that MON buys these players then we wont have to read the s**te that taglor comes up with. Why dont you support man utd and go and moan about only winning the league every couple of years on their blog. |
Villa_PeteD
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taglor, you need a reality check. im being realistic, not saying we shouldnt go after good players. you surely couldnt be unhappy if we went out and signed chimbonda, defoe, bentley. maybe even diarra too? they are quality players and would help cement a european place. then once we have got europe we can go out and sign a top draw left back and exciting CM, someone like a sneijder, van der vaart, etc. but those players just wont come yet. And yes, you do have to speculate to accumulate, but i dont see how £25m on a RB that was valued at £8-10m 4 months ago is a wise investment. |
AddZZ08
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Chimbonda....YES wud b a gr8 signing & with his agent saying hed luv a move 2 villa park thats very encouraging!!! Defoe....NO hes 2 much lyk Gabby we need a bak up 4 big john carew it seems he cnt stay fit so id go 4 sum1 lyk doyle....not very big but very gd in th air!! Barnes wud b a gdgd signing also as we need mur pace down the right wing nd I think he fits th bill perfectly 4 a martin oneill player, English, young, not 2 pricey, jus lyk Ashley young this tym last yr.... i lyk petrov but hes not a right sided midfielder!! imagine th pace of young and barnes dwn each wing!! Nd also i think we definatley need 2 tie dwn laursen....id lyk mellberg 2 stay obv. aswell but id make big martin top priority....also lyk 2 say curtis davies is cuming on very well indeed!..gdgd 2 c!! Line up id lyk afta transfer window shuts:: (4-4-2) Carson Chimbonda Davies Laursen Bouma Barnes Reo-Coker Barry(c) Young Carew Agbonlahor subs: taylor knight petrov maloney doyle |
Northern Villan
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When managers take over other clubs, there is always going to be players sold, simple as! are you telling me when fulham bought Davis of us in the summer that he was one of our rejects! No chance, he just simply was'nt Oneill's type of player, when O'Leary was in charge and Davis was playing week in week out he looked one of the most promising youngsters in the premiership. We need to be realistic, being linked with Queresma is great but if you could choose the bright lights of London or the scenery of Madrid or Milan youre not going to want to go and live in Birmingham are you! these are all factors that effect a players desiscion when they move clubs, as you would if you went for a job in another country or city. I am glad MON has not gone out and spent 15 million on a striker from italy or spain, I would rather him buy a player that I have seen can actually play in this league, ie defoe, chimbonda. look at what Houllier did at liverpool, Ok he won a few trophies, but he spent over 100 million on pure sh*te, do you want O'Neill to do that, is it worth the gamble and bankrupt the club? instead why don't we show our support and get to the ground and watch the Villa instead of the 33 thousand that were there on saturday and show some support to our team and get back into europe! |
Michael P
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To a degree I understand your point PeteD. Years of Doug Ellis, Lee Hendrie, John Fashanu, Ian Ormondroyd, Garry Parker, Graham Taylor (during his "2nd coming"), Julian Joachim, Hadji and Kachloul, Balaban and the likes are enough to dumb anyone into mediocre expectations and into passive submission. May I remind you however that - and I quote Wikipedia - "Aston Villa is the fourth most successful club in English football history, having won 21 major honours, although most of these were won before the Second World War and the most recent was in 1996". We also are supposed to be backed by an American multimillionaire hell bent to bring back the glory days, we have a top ground, top training ground, a few good players, a decent manager (long balls aside) and a healthy league position. This alone should encourage someone at this club to get a move on and finally have the balls to bid for anything either than kids or Tottenham rejects. To top it all up, Villa happen to play in what is currently the most attractive - in terms of money at least - league in the world. I have heard the "let's get things done with common sense and timing" for 2 years now, since MON was appointed and Lerner took control, and in my book it would be time to attempt to step up 2 or 3 gears and show real ambition. There is also the fact that Mr Lerner took over a club in good nick with regards to finances, something that cannot be said for example for Man City with Shinawatra or Chelsea with Abramovich, which means he didn't have to bail us out in terms of debts and as a result should have left him with enough cash to make the odd silly bid for players worth the money. As Damian said, it is all about selling the club. If you are going to move forward at the speed of Miss Daisy then players will not come regardless of glorious 5 year plans or shiny training grounds. If you - however - display the ambition to step up a few levels and go for it, there's a very good chance top names will take notice. As we are now, in a good league position and with something to build on, we should attempt to sell the club and add to what we have so that we can remain in the top 6/7 and hopefully qualify for Europe. If we instead decide to buy Barnes, Doyle and the likes, chances are we will continue to be praised for nurturing British talent after finishing 8th or 9th and - once again - have little else to cheer about. We have enough kids to please Gary Glitter for a lifetime, we have had enough donkeys to rival Spain's outbacks, I dare to say it would be time to inject some momentum to this eternally futuristic vision of a winning Aston Villa. |
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"although most of these were won before the Second World War and the most recent was in 1996" This is exactly my point. we have no divine right today to automatically be challenging the at the top. We have to build a squad and a team capable, and we are doing that. At the moment we are 7th. With money spent in January on Bentley, defoe and chimbonda we will finish 6/7th. Then in the summer go out and invest in a couple of top quality players. We cant simply go out now and buy the best in the world, this isnt fantasy football or champ! And its interesting you mention balaban. he was the next big thing at the time and considered a real coup, just goes to show that buying abroad isnt the best option. sometimes its better to buy proven quality, someone that we know can cut it and score in the premiership i.e. defoe |
Villa_PeteD
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however, iv got to agree with you one one thing Michael P, Kevin bloody doyle!? we do not need him and should be aiming much higher than that. id rather give a youngster a chance in the first team than spend £8m on someone that hasnt even had 2 years in the prem. |
Michael P
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Foreigners don't always adapt, it's a calculated risk you need to take, a gamble usually afforded by teams daring to win something. Bergkamp was a donkey at Inter Milan then became a top player at Arsenal. Davids flopped at Milan then played well at Juventus. Tomasson was a disaster at Newcastle then progressed to better things at Feyenoord (won Uefa Cup) and AC Milan (Champions League). Spot a pattern yet? All of the above ended up moving from a big club to another. Where did Balaban end up after Villa? At Club Bruges. I remember the odd comment made about the croatian, I don't however recall Barcelona and Manchester Utd challenging us for him otherwise like hell Doug Ellis was gonna get him. And now back to the "not big enough for certain players" chestnut. Let's use 1 example above all: Atletico Madrid. They were relegated in 2000 and spent 2 seasons struggling in the Spanish second division. This season they finally managed to qualify for the Uefa Cup for the 1st time since 2000. Hardly giants at present, are they? I knew you were going to pick on the 1996 Wikipedia comment, it was the flawed bit I wanted you to comment on and right on cue you did. Now, let's have a look at the Atletico Madrid squad: Maniche, Abbiati, Reyes, Forlan, Motta, Luis Garcia, Maxi Rodriguez, Simao. Not a bad line up for a club hardly able to display a history of glory over the past few years, is it? Plenty of flair, passing ability, firing power and ability. Flair we have a little in Maloney, Young and Petrov at the Villa, firing power comes through Agbonlahor and Carew. And that's it. The rest are good players or promising youngsters. What we need now is to complement them with established European performers. Defoe would be welcomed, don't get me wrong, although I'd question his motivations as he is being forced out and seems far from happy to leave the bright lights (and the sh*t traffic, and the smog, and the stabbings) of London. Chimbonda is ok but I have serious doubts on his overall quality, I watched him carefully last night again and his passing can often let him down, he was caught out of position on a number of occasions and his attitude is also questionable. I doubt Bentley would come and besides, we are already wasting some of Young's potential by playing him on the left so why not look for a left sided winger instead and allow the ex-Watford winger to finally do his stuff on the right? The Atletico Madrid example stands as testament that - if you have ambition - it doesn't matter about recent history. Let's put the "not ready to challenge for big names yet" theory to bed once and for all, lads. |
Leroy
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The 5 year plan probably consists of selling Villa to other players for at least 3 of them! Haha. Im happy to make Europe this year for the extra games we get. What annoys me is people carrying on about whos the biggest and best Villa fan. Randy is the biggest fan, because hes the one with all the cash falling out of his pockets! |
on the pee my lord, on the pee
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I heard that on BBC WM aswell ... Tony Butler reckons we have had a bid accepted for Defoe, just up to the player now. Its not fact, just what they've heard apparently! |
Az_
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Northern Villan - Not one person has mentioned Messi, Ronaldinho or Kaka, and I doubt any Villa fan is expecting that. The 'biggest' player anyone has mentioned is Bosingwa, and that's only because of the ridiculous price tag Porto have put on him. This Villa side just needs an extra bit of quality and experience and hopefully that will bring a little more consistency. There are plenty of top players that would consider a move to Aston Villa, probably not from the bigger clubs but certainly anything below, whether that be from a team within the Premiership or from a foreign club. |
sam villa for life
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team to be after transfer window gk. carson rb. chimbonda cd.laursen cd. davies/ we could bid for taylor at newcastle lb.bouma rm. barnes/ bentley cm reo coker cm barry lm young cf carew cf agbonlahor subs gk taylor cahill/ knight gardener/salifou petrov doyle |
headdball
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just heard around tallaght, here in Dublin, that robbie keane is suffering a lot under ramos new regime at spurs. Reckon a cool 10 mill wud entice keano, used to combine brilliantly with quinn for the republic, big Johnny Carew knockin balls down to him, magic!! no chance of getting hoyte, wenger wont cut the apron strings!!. From what I see, noone is giving Kevin Doyle any credit. Doyle said in Irish papers today that he didn't intend to ever stay at a club like reading and I reckon we should get in there before he rots on the bench at Chelsea, a cool finisher and no one at reading pu |