As Ramos leaves Sevilla I'm thinking it was wrong to get rid of Jol
Written by Damian   
Friday, 26 October 2007

Juande Ramos has quit as manager of Sevilla and if there was still someone willing to take my money, I'd have it on him as the next manager of Spurs.

You see, nobody will take my bet and the thing is while I think Tottenham Hotspur have made a huge mistake in letting Martin Jol leave, Ramos is very much the next manager.

Why is it a mistake though? It's a mistake because the Spurs board should have supported Martin Jol 100%.

When I say support him, I mean the board should have spoken to the players, told them that Martin Jol was the boss and that what he said, went. They didn't and that was where it all started to go wrong.

If the Spurs board did support the manager they'd only have players that wanted to play for Martin Jol and that could only have been a good thing for the club.

What they've got now is a bunch of players that don't know the new manager and they've got a manager that is going to take two or three years to get it even close to how he wants it. When the new manager has a poor start to his third season will they fire him too?

I may be wrong when I say all this, but I'd put money on it, but isn't Martin Jol the most successful manager they've had, in terms of Premier League finishes?

Anyway, it look like Juande Ramos is the new manager. He's done well in Spain and he may very well do well at Spurs. Good luck to him but it has left a taste.

My point is, Martin Jol wasn't given enough time, but that's football these days.

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Greg said:

no man, look at benitez. he won the champions league the first year in charge.ramos will be a huge hit in the premiership. i think he will bring success to the club although the attitude of some players(berbatov) was unacceptable
October 26, 2007

Martin Jol said:

And what's more - this Ramos has had 10 clubs in 14 years - He won't even be at the Lane this side of next xmas - what a joke!! smilies/angry.gif
October 26, 2007

Damian said:

i'm not questioning the quality of the new manager

i'm questioning the getting rid of jol ...
October 26, 2007 | url

JSpurs said:

I love Martin Jol,
Martin Jol loves me!
October 26, 2007

Pereguine Buxteeth said:

Ramos is not joining spurs - i can confirm that for you.
It will be Jose Morientes, ex Chelsea. I can confirm that now this minute
Ramos has quit yes, but only because he wants a break from football.
Watch this space
October 26, 2007 | url

Ivor Biggen said:

Typicaly when you dont see Jols team week in week out,you dont realise that he should have achieved the top 4 in his first full season,he made some grave errors specialy conceding last minute goals which cost Spurs the 4th spot that season and worse he never learned from his mistakes still carrying on making exactly the same mistakes...Put yourself into Levy`s shoes you invested millions maybe only second or third behind chelsea in terms of transfer fees paid what would you do? Jol didnt have what it takes to make that top 4,he doesnt know the feeling of being a winner..Jol is a nice bloke and nice blokes dont make top managers..Good riddance...sounds like when a blind man dies everyone left behind talk about his beautiful eyes.
October 26, 2007

Pereguine Buxteeth said:

Contrary to my previsou comment, another runner for spurs job is
Maxwell Bunting. He isnt as well recognised but i think he is fairly good boss gaffer
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Phil König said:

well said Ivor B. fully agree and this is exactly what most people don't seem to appreciate
October 26, 2007

theyid said:

The board are a joke, absolutely comically clueless and pretty much always have been at Spurs. Every now and then a man comes along who does something on the pitch, but the problem is in todays football world there just isn't the time to build. Many fans just want it now, and the premise of a 5 year plan is obsolete. You get 2 seasons at Spurs maybe 3 to achieve a phantom target that is generally unrealistic or you're out. This means Spurs will go round in circles forever until we get a chairman who has a spectrum of abilities which is very rare.
We were lucky getting Jol. The chairman actually appointed Arnesen/Santini, and it failed. Jol was there and showed he could do the job straight away. Unfortunately the board thought appointing a man to undemine him would be a good idea and they were right. They'll do it over and over until they sell up and go away happy that they have made big profits, all the while the embarrassing situations we find ourselves in at Spurs will continue and us fans have to take it on the chin, and they know that they'll always sell out the ground whatever they do so what do they care what we think? Jol given control, time and genuine backing would have been a big success in my opinion.
They can get Capello/Mourinho whoever. It doesn't matter who it is, if you are going to run a club like this then you will always fail, so Ramos can come, taste life at Spurs for a while and at some stage will go back to Spain glad to be out of there, and us fans will just have to accept whatever happens regardless. So Ramos has 2 years and if he hasn't finished in the top 4 then he will be a failure because of his starting point. Jol's starting point was a club that finishes probably on average 11th, his average was 5th and that is not good enough so anybody who comes in has to achieve more in the same time Jol had. Top 3 next season will only do then! It's a joke.
My prediction. Spurs wont finish in the top 5 again for at least the next 3 years and we will all be crying wondering why we let Mr Tottenham MK2 go. Shameful.
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October 26, 2007

Jose said:

Of course - I - Jose - the secial one will take over at Spurs - all thie Ramos stuff is just a smoke screen - then I - Jose - The Special One - will arrange a ground share - with a smaller club - like Arsenal!!!!
October 26, 2007

Morgan Butterwax said:

hmmm ramos nice
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Steve Bing said:

Going back to rafa - perhaps Jol should go to liverpool?
October 26, 2007

Dom said:

You have got to be kidding,first of all what has it got to with Villa anyway and secondly,don't you think David O'leary or John gregory deserved more time at your place or any one of the numerous coaches you have had in place over the years?..Surely deadly Doug and your board should have supported them,don't you think?
October 26, 2007

holteender73 said:

If it was any club other than Spurs then I think it might have been a suprise, they do seem to have an amazing ability to shoot themselves in the foot.
Also, to those Villans who've recently been knocking MoN take note, no club has a right to be top of the table and money doesn't guarantee success. I think the way Villa are heading is the right way and I'm glad our chairman isn't Daniel Levy, sticking his oar (and his director of football) in at every opportunity.
October 27, 2007

Nick123 said:

Too be honest martin jol started to manage a team above his own abilities. he has made tottenham into a major side in the prem by bringing in quality players. but now tot are at a level were they need fresh blood to push them into a top four team.
October 27, 2007

avfc-anthony said:

jose mourinho can join an english club but will loose like 10m be wise buckteeth
October 27, 2007

Dizzy Mugs said:

I think Ramos will make Spurs slightly too big for themselves. He may have some good contacts but eventually the egos of the players he buys will destroy the club. As it's now doing to Chelsea..
October 27, 2007

Steve Bing said:

maxwell bunting? who is he ?
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I HATE BLUES said:

It may work in our favour, a new manager going to spurs could peg them a back a season allowing us to cloase the gap.
October 27, 2007

Chrisodon said:

It Could work in our favor in more than one way we could hopefully try to sign defoe in january now smilies/grin.gif as ramos favours big strikers (kanoute and fabiano expect one at the lane this january) also there could be a settling period or he could just launch spurs season and they break the top four which they're capable of. Either way i think Jol had pushed all his buttons while in management of spurs and ramos offers something else to that team but only time will tell if he's to be succesful or not.
October 27, 2007

Steve Bing said:

So somebody?? Who is maxwell bunting?>#
October 27, 2007 | url

taglor said:

Has Harewood scored a goal yet?
October 27, 2007

Chrisodon said:

For the reserves he got a hat-trick last time he played i think
October 27, 2007

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October 29, 2007

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