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We need defoe because he is a striker that might actually score unlike our current lot. How many do you honestly think Carew, Moore, Gabby and Harewood are going to score between them this year - 20 at best which is no where near good enough. The 2ndhalf against Fulham showed we needed another striker. The game should have been over with the chances we had long before Maloneys winner. As for ZAT Knight please no!!! He is garbage and no improvement on Ridgewell. |
Damian
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cheers Madarab i actually didn't read it all ... just looked for something that backed up my opinion. i know. but hell ... i can. thanks though |
Dutchie
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Zat Knight is definitely not the world class player that was promised us to come in as far as I'm concerned ! Defoe: YES PLEASE ! |
liamo1981
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If anything Zat Knight would be backup for laursen because he is tall and good in the air. We've seen what happens when we don't have a defender that is good in the air, before Laursen came back we conceded too many goals from set pieces. so it might not be a bad signing as a backup. but we still need another quality CB, so if he signs Zat Knighti think we can say Adios to Cahill because i think he will still want another CB. As for the Defoe rumour, we do need a 20 goal a season striker and i think he could be it, but i'd hate to see Luke Moore not given a chance to prove himself i think he deserves it on his performance against Fulham alone |
liamo1981
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i see we are also being linked to Wayne Routledge, which is surely a load of rubbish. |
Sasa
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Guardian says Knight has done a medical and that Routledge is another target. Dont mind Routlegde, but Knight? WTF? He aint even better than Ridge, Ridge was rubbish but at least he could get 4-5 league goals a season. Anyway, with those signings we should storm the 1st Div next season. |
runtingz
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defoe coming to villa would be great for the club and i can see harwood going to wigan or sunderland without kicking a ball for villa if defoe comes in |
bazzag
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Agree with you Tone mate we need a striker asap!! Damian - how can you honestly say we dont need one? I dont see any of our strikers scoring more than 10 prem goals and i doubt any will get to that mark. |
Tone
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I can see us making 3 signings this week and that will be it. Zat Knight, Wayne Routledge and Glen Johnson!! A depressing thought but could well be realistic! |
Chrisodon
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i'd like routledge at villa he's like young quick, skillful, & can whip in a cross the only reason he's not playing for spurs is lennon the new SWP. if villa sign knight i'll give up on the european dream untill we get rid of him! But i'd absolutely love to see jermaine defoe at villa he's a player we're crying out for a player that just loves too score goals, As for Davies we'll need him if we sign knight. One thing i've noticed we've not been linked too one single RB except the toilet thief johnson. |
Damian
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at runtingz, harewood kicked a ball on saturday .. but i know what you mean at bazzag, we've got carew, gabby, harewood, moore and young (he's down as a striker on the official site). i think we've got 1 20 goal season player in there in moore. but it's just opinion |
Mick
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Routledge, Knight, Johnson..if the Villa sign this rubbish all suspected this summer's gonna be proven true: we have no money and even less common sense and transfer market knowledge. I still hope to be proven wrong big time but if this what we end up adding to the squad it really is down to desperation rather than good marketing strategy. What a cock up of a summer, well done to the american marketing machine who have managed yet again to sell bulls**t as gold to the brits. |
Tone
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Damian, Young isnt a striker no matter what he is listed as anywhere. He is a winger and will score goals in that position. We are discussing how many the out and out strikers will score. I know many appearances have been as a sub but Luke Moore's record for Villa is something like 1 goal in 6 games!! He is not going to score near 20 goals even if he got a run in the side. Carew looked very average on Saturday as well, missing numerous chances!! We need a striker by Friday!! |
Rossa
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This is the problem with us Villa Fans, We think our players are a lot better than they really are!! How can anyone say we dont need a striker?! Well answer me this, how many goals have we scored since the start of the season? and how many have been scored by strikers? We dont just need a striker, we need a proper goalscorer! Now I am as big a fan of Gabby and Luke as anyone, but A) they are not ready to start every game and B) Gabby is not a proper striker, his finishing just isnt good enough! Young is great, but is a winger not a striker. I am a huge fan of Carew, think he is a great player and on his day will cos any defence in the world problems but again doesnt score enough! I really want to see Maloney given a run with Carew but to be honest I dont think any of Maloney, Moore, or Gabby would do a better job alongside Carew than Defoe!! His finishing is amazing and has pace to burn too!! Lets hope we get him!!! Up the Villa!! |
gee
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I cant stop laughing at these players were suppose to be after I have to laugh because ill probably cry if I dont..COME ON VILLA |
Madarab
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Cheers Damian! I am unsure about Knight, but think Defoe would be a good statement of intent. He will score goals anywhere he goes. Routledge is 22, quick and with a point to prove. Bring him in. |
Bazil
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At Sasa - do you want us to go down you freak. You must be a blue nose the way u talk. And Ridgewell scored 7 goals in 6 years at Villa. Maybe we should have kept him for that - You Plonker!!! just over 1 a season!! |
Sasa
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I was takin the pi$$ about 1st Div, just trying to emphasise the rubbish that we're buying. As for Ridge, he had a season where he scored 4 or 5 league goals. Anyway it makes me laugh when some Villa fans were saying Ridge was good, then saying he's crap once he's gone. Just like the Barry lovers, it wernt too long ago when many Villa fans were calling him fat Garreth and wanted to get rid of him to Spurs/Newcastle/Pompey and now saying he should be an England regular. No doubt Basil and Rusty fall into this category. Clueless. |
Villa_1380
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Its fans (or not) like Sasa that bring the club down. Why talk about the championship next year. We arent going down and you know it. Did you see the 2nd half performance on saturday?? we were far to good to go down. I doubt u were there as u clearly arent a true fan. Maybe u were at Pride park with the scum |
Sasa
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The second half performance against a 10 man team that's gonna struggle? Unfortuantely I wasn't there, only saw highlights. But I was there against Pool where we were outclassed. Fulham at home should be banker, and these types of games were for Villa not long ago. Ha ha talk about being a true fan- what do you do sit in the Trinity and frown upon anyone that starts a chant? I've spent a lot of my money watching Villa home and away and dont need clowns like you trying to take away my right to an opinion. 1st Div was blatantly a joke, looks like u aint got a sense of humour either. |
Bazil
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I think it is clear to everyone who is the clueless one Sasa. Grow up and get off this site!!! |
Sasa
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Ha ha. Alrite Basil what d'ya want me to say. Harewoods quality, Knight (if he signs) will control our backline, Barry is gonna be centre-mid for England. NRC will run every game, Moore will get 20. Happy now? You should grow up lad, football is about opinions. If you cant hack that then u should leave this site, since it's a message board where Villa fans voice their opinions. |
Bazil
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Barry should be given a chance in centre mid for Eng dont u?? He could challenge Lamps to play with Gerrard? NRC Is a future world beater and Moore will soon be banging them in for fun. All hopfully in the same England starting line up soon along with maybe Carson and young. Not sure about Knight tho - dont think he will run our backline?? |
Andrew Cravos
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Having gone to the game on Saturday, the one blindly obvious thing that came from the game is our need for a 20 goal a season STRIKER. Whilst i don't think there's many bettter in the prem than Carew at holding up the play and bringing others in, he's not a goalscorer...he's a second striker and a good one at that! Gabby's masively over-rated in my opinion and no better than darius vassell was for us when playing up top... at best stick him on the right wing to give us a bit of balance instead of petrov (like he did in the 2nd half). Finally whilst im one of Luke Moore's biggest fans he's not in the same class of defoe. A proven prem goalscorer and England international who would im certain alongside Carew fire Villa to Europe. Surely that in itself, regardless of the fact MON has Lerner's 'significant funds', is worth the reported £12-15m he's worth. |
Woodinho
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Am I the only one who though Knight did well against Carew? I actually thought during the game that he might be decent back-up... Come on guys (and I know everyone says this) lets judge after they put the shirt on! Another thing is I was really pleased to see Harewood on the pitch on Saturday, even though he isn't the most gifted goalscorer ever to grace Villa Park he looks like he would spill Claret for us and thats good enough for me! IMO he is still behind Luke Moore (who looked hungy as f**k for it the other day) but I'd rather have him than some 20mil tart up front who's more bothered about his hair cut! |
Sasa
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Bazil I take it you're taking the michael? Anyway, I'd like to think Carson will make the grade. Thought he played well against the Toon. Will only be able to make a clear judgement once I've seen his handling of crosses/commanding his box/organising defence. Would love to see Moore realise his potential. His attitude needs to improve which by all accounts seems to be happening. MON maybe left him out to give him a kick up the backside. As for Barry most knowledgeable Villa fans will tell you that he's best position is in a back three, however I would not change to a 3-5-2 to accommodate Barry, unless NRC is totally comfortable with controlling the whole of the centre of the park. MON has obviously gone for 4-5-1 (4-3-3 when we are in opposition half) to accommodate Petrov and it clearly has not worked. I'm not going to waste a paragraph on Knight, he doesn't deserve it. I can have a sensible discussion and I know about Aston Villa, I'm Villa mad, nuff sed. |
Sasa
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Another thing going on about strikers, it goes abck to Little days. Fans demanded Collymore then he went mentle cos Gregory couldn't handle him, we wanted Angel and didn't fully appreciate him (ie he needed quick minded players around him), Baros came in everyones happy but he takes the pi$$ out of us. Now Defoe, if he comes in I really hope he does the biz and doesn't end up like the previous strikers (except for Angel who had 2 great seasons). |
Bazil
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what did you think i was taking the p**s about sasa. We have some class players and i am simply stating how i rate them. A lot of future England talent. |
Abz
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Well,it's all good and well bringing in more faces and adding to the squad, but are they better than what we already have? Now, I don't think Knight's a bad player, but I just don't think that he should be in front of Cahill if we sign him. A right back has to be a priority signing, because we haven't got one at all! We can't expect Gardener to play right back until january! Petrov needs to be dropped for a while too, it's just a waste of a space if he's consistently underperforming.I'm a fan of Petrov from the past but it's just not happening for him at the moment. A spell on the bench might sort him out. I think we also need a creative midfielder alongside Young. Nakamura would have been a good shout after all! There's alot of work that needs to be done yet, I'd say we need at least 3-4 quality signings who will add quality because I think that's what we're lacking at the moment. Otherwise, it's just gonna be the same as last season, a real mid-season struggle and it'll just be the same story, lack of numbers and lack of quality. O'Neill needs to spend money and be a bit ruthless, that's the only way. |
Sasa
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Err Barry in CM for England? NRC a world-beater? Anyway ignore that, misunderstanding, didn't actually think you really meant that. I cant see Barry in the middle with Gerrard no way. Too many players ahead of him Barton, Lampard, Hargreaves, Carrick, Jenas. He would have to be picked for the qualifiers and put in an amazing performance to get the nod again. Young is developing, but remember was nearly £10mill and 22 years old, you want the finished atricle at that price unless its C. Ronaldo or Henry where its blatantly obvious they were gonna be class. Someone said that Young could hopefully be our answer to Tony Morely, I'm too young for the 80-82 team but hopefully he's right. I would be happy if Young emulates some of the skill Tony Daley produced, but then again there are some Villa fans who never rated Daley that high. |
Mheaven09
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Zat is a sensible signing. Defoe would hamper the progress of Moore but MON has made the right exports (apart from Davis) and I trust his judgement..By friday we could have anyone ranging from Davis, Hoyte, Defoe, Knight, Routlegde or G.Johnson....I would settle for any of these.. It's progress COME ON YOU VILLA BOYS!!!! |
Bazil
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u r clueless sasa. How can you not rate our young English Talent. Barry, Reo coker, Young, Moore, Gabby, Crason and Garnder are all potentially or already great players. Not long before we have these and more in the Eng Squad together. How good will that be for the club and its profile!!! |
Dizzy Mugs
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Knight would be good, with MON's management he would be challenging Laursen and Mellberg. This rumour seems pretty certain since it's on BBC Sport and they rarely put up speculation. I don't think we need Defoe and i don't think Defoe wants Villa. If we want another striker shouldn't it be another lanky lad? We don't need quality strikers and we don't need quality crossing and passing, which Young and Barry definetly gave us at Fulham. All we need is a bit of luck and midfielders scoring goals as well (again, we did this at Fulham). Anyone doubting that our strikers will be scoring for fun and our midfielders will be assisting doesn't deserve to enter Villa Park. |
Sasa
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Davis, Hoyte, Defoe, Knight, Routlegde or G.Johnson....I would settle for any of these.. It's progress Why do we settle for run-of-the-mill players? No wonder we got Harewood. Ok we're not going to get CL players until we qualify for the CL, but surely we can show more imagination in the transfer market? I dont know much about Davis so cant comment about him. I would not take a Baggies' fan opinion of him cos they dont know what quality is unless they are old enough to remember Bomber Brown, Cyrill Regis or Geoff Astle. They kept goin on about Gera, yeah he was decent but where the hell is he now? |
Mick
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Routledge, Johnson, Knight are progress? Am I living in a parallel universe all of a sudden? |
Sasa
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Bazil mate, you're over-hyping our players. Yes some of them are good, but none are England class. Well it's up to you. I'm not gonna bother trying to change your mind. It's obvious you enjoy average players playing average football. Enjoy the long ball to Carew. No wonder MON signs crap players if fans like you are demanding such rubbish. I hope you're a nose having a laugh cos you've got serious problems. Nigel Reo-Coker Marlon Harewood Zat Knight A stark contrast to the shopping list you lot created at the beginning of the summer: Defoe Davies Sneijder SWP A Hammers' fan wrote this, now he aint got no right to to take the pi$$ cos he's W.Ham but the comment is true!! |
chris kane holtender
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The way we should b elooking at this is martin oneil is going for zat knight, davis and defoe. All english players martin is trying to bring in bitish talent. and most of them are for the future. In years to come we will be champions of the premiership with nearlly the england team lmao. however i thing we should go for adriano from inter milan he wants to leave and he only costs 10million and hes a better player then defoe if u ask me. Keep the faith. Cummon You Villa Boyz! |
Woodinho
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For f****s sake lads, Knight is one of us, he's a Villa boy! That alone will make him wanna be at his best for us! Imagine the buzz of running onto the pitch you watched Villa play on as a kid and playing for the Villa first team! That alone will give him an extra 20% per game! F****n hell man just lay off him. I was one of the Harewood doubters but I've changed my fickle opinions and will give anyone in the Villa shirt my last breath on the Holte End, no matter who he is or how good his past is when they come to Villa I'm 100% behind em! I hope (if he signs) he becomes the next Ian Taylor style cult figure at Villa Park! |
Bazil
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Sasa, Are u honestly telling me u dont rate our young talent?? And as for Barry, he has been clas for nearly a decade now. Reo coker could well play the holding role fro England for the next 6/7 years. Young is better than anything England have at the moment when he turns it on - he just needs some consistency. You are clearly the blue nose slating players at the club that you claim to follow!! You are a numpty who has a severe lack of Knowledge when it comes to Villa and Football in general! |
Woodinho
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"The way we should be looking at this is martin oneil is going for zat knight, davis and defoe. All english players martin is trying to bring in bitish talent. and most of them are for the future." F****N DAMN RIGHT!!!!!!!! PROUD HISTORY - BRIGHT FUTURE! UP THE VILLA |
Sasa
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With that comment, it's quite blatant that Bazil is a complete head-case. Go and have a night out with Jens Lehman, I'm sure both you nutters will get on fine. |
Rusty
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Come on Bazil - what u saying? Dont let that blue nose Sasa off the hook. He has been talking rubbish all morning! |
tbhaley86
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liam rosenior, zat knight, curtis davies, wayne routledge, jermaine defoe.If mon brings in the above before saturday ill be quite impressed. Heard Ronaldinho might be up for grabs. HOW s**t IS STILHERE PETNOB (stilian petrov) |
TON23
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woodie 2nd time today you made me laugh cool keep going it might chill some people out on here  |
TON23
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any more pet names for our lads stillher petnob marlon deadwood shaun gohomie (s**t wait dont lol) gobby anglebars luke needs to b played moore |
Villain from Texas
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I don't understand why people don't want Defoe. Next thing you know, we'll be saying things like, "Don't sign Wayne Rooney---we need to give Moore a chance." Obviously, Defoe ain't Rooney. But the point is this: When you have a chance to sign a young, proven goal scorer and England international, you take it. I don't care that Moore could be as good as Defoe---he only could be; he isn't. I don't recall hearing Newcastle's fans saying: "Don't sign Mark Viduka: we already have Martins, Owen, and Ameobi." You add quality when you can. |
Woodinho
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i just hope the five year plan all works out so we aint callin the gaffer "Martin O'Neilie"! |
fulham perry
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Please Please let this b true after Andy Melville "Knightmare" is by far the worst player I have seen in a Fulham shirt. He will cost you points for fun & for such a tall lad he is easily mugged off & his goals to game ratio is shocking, he pings long balls up field like beckham & very few reach there destination unless the crowd count. Good luck with him & I will even pay his taxi money to make sure he makes his medical !!!!! |
Villa_Rules
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Lets hope this is true both of them are needed especialy defoe cause we havent got a proven goal scorer all tho i think if moore gets the games he would start bangin the goals in |
Leroy
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I agree 100% with Damian. Luke Moore is good enough to score 20 this season. Once he starts in at least half the games. He hasnt had a good run with injuries and he rarely got the nod last year but when he is on Villa are a better team, its that simple. He has the ability to change a game, like Young. Defoe doesnt set team mates up, barely crosses in, even with outstanding targets in the box, he doesnt have the vision, anyone who has seen him play will tell you that.He is overrated, Moore will be far better, this will be his breakout year. If we want to spend that money (£15mil) why wouldnt we spend it on a playmaking midfielder? We have plenty of strikers but we need to get the ball to them............. |
TON23
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darius fastashell (not anymore lol) should be darius fatashell pmsl! craig footballer (not gardner) martin arrrrrrrghson |
villa 82
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At Leroy. Thought i was the only one who thinks Defoe is a overrated selfish player, most people on here think he is the next Pele the way they go on about him. |
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